Shameful day

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  1. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Well-Known Member

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    That's how it works; of course it's democratic. The party members vote for the leader of their party, it doesn't go to general election. I don't remember anyone moaning about the process when Corbyn was elected as leader of the Labour party.
     
  2. Con

    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    So you don't see a difference between the leader of the opposition and the Prime Minister?
     
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    And when Brown took over after Blair resigned?
     
  4. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Well-Known Member

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    They're both party leaders. It's up to the party to choose a leader. The public vote for their MP, so we don't directly vote for a PM, we vote for a government and the leader of the winning party becomes Prime Minister.

    When Blair stepped down there wasn't a general election to decide who replaced him.
     
  5. e-red

    e-red Well-Known Member

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    This is Thatcher's United. Do you feel united this evening? If you do, your delusional.
     
  6. Con

    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    Slightly different circumstances but that was also undemocratic.
     
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    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    So are you honestly telling me that people vote for their MP without considering who they want in Government?
     
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    If you want to vote who leads the conservatives.

    Join the party. You will have a vote
     
  9. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Well-Known Member

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    Yes because anybody who votes for a party for any reason other than policy really shouldn't be voting. Are you saying that just because the Tories are in government that there should be a general election style vote to elect the new leader of the Tory party.
     
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    Again, 17.5 million bigots. Silly boy
     
  11. Con

    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    Chuff me Mario - the party was elected on the back of their manifesto of which the referendum was one of their biggest vote winners. The PM and the Chancellor were at the forefront of the remain campaign. This has to be seen as a vote of no confidence against the government. An election is the logical and hopefully inevitable step for me.

    You said people vote for their MP and now you're saying it's party policy. Which is it?
     
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    I think it's wonderful we live on an island we can try and make great again. Plenty of countries will wish they could have a democracy like us where such an important decision can be voted on.
     
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    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    I'd rather join NAMBLA.
     
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    There may well be a snap election called when the new Tory leader is elected and then the country will get another chance to vote for it's government - that's democracy. If you want a say in who that person is then you need to join the Tory party. That, whether you like it or not, is also democracy.
     
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    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    Electing a PM is democracy. Electing a party who then choose the PM is not.
     
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    I'm not a bigot, so be very careful.
    Slander... or is it libel ?
     
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    He has resigned so the party has to replace him as leader. If you want feel so strongly about wanting to vote for the new leader then join the party and you will get a vote, it really is that simple.

    He hasn't resigned as an MP, if he had then the local constituents would get the chance to replace him.

    I don't see why you think the whole country should get to vote on the leader of the Tory party. It just isn't logical.
     
  18. Con

    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    What bearing does a general election have on who any party chooses as their leader.
     
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    Don't know about bigots, but they're certainly gullible. Less than 12 hours since the result declared and the Leave camp have already reneged on their promises over the NHS and immigration. That's got to be some kind of record.
     
  20. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Well-Known Member

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    None. A party goes into an election with a leader and provided that leader wins their seat then they become the Prime Minister if their party wins the most seats (or remains PM if that party is incumbent). In the case of Cameron the electorate of Witney elected him as their MP, the party elected him as the leader.

    That is how it works in all parties.
     

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