Should Cardiff Be Allowed In Europe

They should have the Cup winners place if they've won the cup - simple as.

 

Isn't there some stupid rule that says that the FA's can nominate any of their teams? In that case then the Welsh FA could nominate Cardiff.

 

The rule is and always has been quite clear

You must qualify by you OWN national association.
Cardiff and swansea have both regularly played in welsh cup competitions as well as english, when we got promoted from League 1 Swansea were given a £500,000 boost from prize money from the welsh cup.

They have always known of the rules yet they have not made a big song and dance about wanting to leave the Welsh FA, why? Because they reap the benefits of both and it is wrong. Even the Cardiff fan's agree that they should choose which one they want to come under.

 

But it was agreed years ago that that wouldn't be the case. You cannot agree to something like that if you aren't prepared to accept the consequences.

 

precisely, and Cardiff City made it to the Semi Finals of the Welsh Premier Cup this season too. ie they had their chance

 

Welsh Premier Cup does not have qualification for Europe for the winners

 

No but that is an issue for the welsh FA to take up. The simple fact is that Cardiff City do benefit from playing in cup competitions under the jurisdiction of the Football Association of Wales. £25k they got for the semi final.

 

No, not by virtue of winning the FA Cup.

The FA Cup winners are forwarded by the FA as their representatives. How can Cardiff represent an association they are not part of - and how would their member clubs feel.

Personally, I think a wild-card compromise would be the ideal solution a la Liverpool when they won the Champions League but didn't finish in the top 4 to qualify.

Cardiff, Swansea and Wrexham are the only three clubs in Europe who are denied access to European competition - and I think UEFA would fear a potential court case given the worldwide publicity Cardiff would receive if they were to win the cup.

And this situation's all down to our governing body, the FAW. Unbelievable.

 

Why have you not broken away from the FAW then? Or have you tried (and failed) in the past? I think it's about time that you, Swansea and Wrexham all launched a campaign to have ALL matters dealt with by the English FA (or to rejoin the Welsh league if preferred)

The way I see it, your board of directors are quite happy to reap the benefits of both FA's as they are complaining about being unfairly treated by the FA when they won't allow them into Europe but also playing in the FAW's invitational (ie optional) Premier Cup and quite happily accepting the prize money from that.

 

Tentative moves are underfoot to join the FA by all accounts - the rightful course of action imo. It's farcical that we play in their competitions, and have done for 100 years, but do not come under their jurisdiction. We are governed by a committee of amateurs, none of whom have ever had any conection to professional football - and they run it that way, believe me.

As far as I'm aware our board have not complained re: the qualification. They knew the rules before the start - and have said as much. Let's be honest, our chances of winning it have always been negligeble.

Don't get carried away by the FAW Premier cup, it's actually funded by BBC Wales btw and would have gone ahead without the FAW. It's no longer going ahead either. CCFC showed no interest in it and fielded youth teams and players coming back from injury as we don't play in a reserve league any more.

The FAW latched on to it as a means of compensation because they denied us access to the Welsh Cup (even though we'd played in it since the 1800's) in order to send a statement to FIFA that they were a genuine governing body with their own leagues, cup comps etc.

This was in reaction to many African countries who were lobbying FIFA to get the FA, FAW, SFA and NIFA to come under the GB banner and get 1 vote at conference - thereby strengthening the African vote.

I'd ditch the FAW without hesitation.

 

RE: The rule is and always has been quite clear

Maximum prize money for the FAW Cup was £100k winner, £50k runner up, £25k semi-finalist. Think it was £10k for the 1/4 finalists - the 1st round!

We were getting the highest gates in the competition at the 900-1000 mark, so hardly a money spinner.

We get no other benefit from the FAW (not even that one btw as it was BBC Wales funded), so no idea where you got that figure.