Should collins be sacked?

Discussion in 'Bulletin Board' started by Donny.tyke, Nov 11, 2023.

?

Should Collins be sacked?

  1. Yes

    98 vote(s)
    36.4%
  2. No

    142 vote(s)
    52.8%
  3. Unsure

    29 vote(s)
    10.8%
  1. Ste

    Stephen Dawson Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2018
    Messages:
    34,252
    Likes Received:
    29,614
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Could sample some sausage.
     
    North Yorks Red likes this.
  2. Marc

    Marc Administrator Staff Member Admin

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2012
    Messages:
    27,872
    Likes Received:
    22,373
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Sacking a manager is rarely definitive though, is it. Almost always a bit of a punt. When is the right time? I don't think there's a right answer.

    Personally I think the Club has a real decision to make in about 6 weeks. Halfway through, we will have played everyone once and the January window will be fast approaching. That's mebbi the stick or twist moment for me. If we find ourselves outside the top 6 after the Xmas fixtures for example, we will be outside expectation and would also mean we're on a downward trajectory at that point. I think it would be difficult to fight a case for Collins being the man to turn things round at that point, and turn us back into a top 6/promoted side.

    That said, this is based on my expectation for the new manager when Duff left, which was top 6 or sacked.

    Personally think it's too early to pull the trigger, but based on what I've seen so far, I have to admit I'm starting to pay a lot more attention to this, on a game by game basis.
     
  3. Fon

    Fonzie Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2012
    Messages:
    8,828
    Likes Received:
    15,033
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I think I agree with most of that - fair points well made.
     
  4. dreamboy3000

    dreamboy3000 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2005
    Messages:
    57,713
    Likes Received:
    24,678
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    DB3K Towers
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I suspect the number of nos will decrease.
     
  5. DazFrumTarn

    DazFrumTarn Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2011
    Messages:
    2,099
    Likes Received:
    2,318
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Tarn
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Poor mans Gareth Southgate.
     
    Stephen Dawson likes this.
  6. AthersleyRed

    AthersleyRed Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2011
    Messages:
    5,486
    Likes Received:
    3,619
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Completely wrong appointment/style. I'm sure Collins would be a good manager in a team that suits his style, but our team is set up for high energy, gegenpressing, attacking football. It's a miracle we're flirting with the Play Offs.

    Another harebrained decision by the board to appoint a manager of his style.
     
  7. Ste

    Stephen Dawson Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2018
    Messages:
    34,252
    Likes Received:
    29,614
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    We need some Gangnam Style.
     
  8. Sup

    SuperTyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2005
    Messages:
    54,454
    Likes Received:
    28,303
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Changed my vote to yes. He starts every game trying to boil the opposition to sleep seeds in doing is boring our own fans and more importantly our own defenders into losing concentration and giving a penalty our goal away even after he finally manages to wake up I've seen more tactical nous in a piece of KFC chicken.
     
    Voice of Reason likes this.
  9. Fon

    Fonzie Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2012
    Messages:
    8,828
    Likes Received:
    15,033
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Good result.

    6 points off automatic.
     
    Jay likes this.
  10. red

    redrum Banned Idiot

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2013
    Messages:
    23,932
    Likes Received:
    17,451
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Good result? Lincoln looked gash if Collins hadn't have tried going all defensive we would have been 2 points better off.
     
    Redblueunwhite, Jamo and wombwell-red like this.
  11. wombwell-red

    wombwell-red Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2018
    Messages:
    3,489
    Likes Received:
    5,077
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I might be wrong but I'm not sure we'll touch play offs again this season.

    Maybe flirt with 6th again in the next few weeks but after that fall down gradually to mid table.
     
    Gimson&theBarnsleys and Jamo like this.
  12. Merde Tete

    Merde Tete Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2005
    Messages:
    16,815
    Likes Received:
    15,427
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Lincoln
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Beautiful city. There's a reason why I live there! Wasn't very impressed with £15.60 for two pints on the marina after the match though!
     
    leeupo and Stephen Dawson like this.
  13. Red

    Redblueunwhite Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2018
    Messages:
    6,187
    Likes Received:
    5,977
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Love going to Lincoln it's a lovely City, Castle ,Cathedral and Brayford water front.
     
    Stephen Dawson likes this.
  14. troff

    troff Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2009
    Messages:
    9,907
    Likes Received:
    13,658
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    donny
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Genuinely surprised more people haven’t altered their vote yet.

    I’m not saying I’d expect a massive majority to want him out but I am not sure there’s more than half of fans at games that are definitely in the no camp.

    Maybe I’m wrong, or perhaps some folk may have changed their mind and haven’t updated their vote.

    Either way, whilst a point at Lincoln is decent in the face of results we’d obtained from the other top ten teams we’d played this season, it’s still pretty arguable to be more two points dropped than one gained. Their equaliser for me came about after baffling changes, all bunched together over a very short period and so always likely to disjoint the team, as well as a shape/formation shift back to the dross of the first half when we’d looked pretty good in getting in front second half.

    He had gained some credit from me for that second half showing and switch up - only to ruin it by reverting to type in the last ten minutes or so. Handbrake on as soon as he skidded his pants. Best thing is he still had bodies committing forward, he didn’t even park the bus - but he clearly put the handbrake on them playing with any positivity. Ridiculous and downright cowardly.

    Shame, a win would have got a monkey off his back re top ten opposition - but he’s proved once again that he and his team aren’t up to it.

    Time to go Neill. Get back to the nice weather in Florida before it gets too cold over here for your kids. They aren’t used to it.
     
    leeupo likes this.
  15. Merde Tete

    Merde Tete Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2005
    Messages:
    16,815
    Likes Received:
    15,427
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Lincoln
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I live on the Brayford. Absolutely lovely area.
     
  16. SamBfC90

    SamBfC90 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2021
    Messages:
    2,518
    Likes Received:
    3,107
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Pontefract
    Style:
    Barnsley Dark
    I was happy with the reaction in the 2nd half, and despite not winning in the end i think today's result should afford him more time, especially with Connell back in the side.
     
    Stephen Dawson and Merde Tete like this.
  17. Wat

    Wathreds Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2023
    Messages:
    171
    Likes Received:
    243
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Don’t think we went defensive, he freshened up the holding midfielder and brought on a CB to move Williams out to the wing back. If we had changed to be more defensive then I think we would have won that. Got caught out hunting the 3rd. Also never a corner in a million years. Consistently poor ref for both teams today
     
    Jay and Stephen Dawson like this.
  18. Fon

    Fonzie Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2012
    Messages:
    8,828
    Likes Received:
    15,033
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Course it's a good result you weird fcking racist.
     
  19. only1kp

    only1kp Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2011
    Messages:
    3,607
    Likes Received:
    1,821
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    father of 3, best friends with jack daniels
    Location:
    dodworth
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    The decisions he made today succeeded in grasping a draw from the jaws of victory
    Kudos to him
     
  20. Red

    Redblueunwhite Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2018
    Messages:
    6,187
    Likes Received:
    5,977
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    He NEEDS to get going forward more imo.
     
    Stephen Dawson likes this.

Share This Page