Should their keeper have been red carded?

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Straight red for the foul.
Yellow for deliberately refusing to go into his goal for the penalty.
Another yellow for constant time wasting.

Referee had chance after chance to send him off but he bottled it. Southend bought the ref today. The bent ****er

 

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The thing about this rule 'denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity' thats baffled me is - doesn't the award of a penalty give the team 'an obvious goalscoring opportunity' ? Sending the keeper or defender off is a double punishment (triple if you count the suspension to follow).

 

Tis true but if that's what the rule states then he should have gone

 

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Well, yes, and that's the deterrent for cheating isn't it?

 

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Hmm, after seeing the highlights l think he got it right. Defenders covering.

 

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Isn't the award of a penalty and GIVING the attacking team an obvious goalscoring opportunity enough of a deterrent for committing a foul inside the area? Just saying.

 

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Not really. What if a player is fouled when he's about to knock it into an empty net? The attacking team have got a penalty instead of a certain goal and the defending team have benefitted from their foul.

 

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I've always thought 'penalty goals' should be awarded in this instance - like penalty tries in rugby. If its handled on the line also.

 

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Looks like Bentley would have saved it anyway, had it been on target. He went the right way and having watched the highlights again, his height when he dives is level with the ball as it goes wide.

 

I said exactly the same thing mate,

 

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I suppose the most famous one I can think of was Suarez in the South Africa world cup - Ghana would have scored but for his handball save on the line. They miss the penalty and get knocked out of the World Cup. Definitely one for the Penalty goal rule.

 

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No, that's no deterrent at all is it?

That just creates parity. Or in fact worse - he had an empty net to aim at had he not been brought down.

To deter someone you must make the outcome worse, hence red card.

 

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You make it sound like he was running towards the goal just about to tap it in and was fouled? It looked on tv like the keeper tried to get the ball but Fletcher was too quick and knocked it past him. This often happens nowadays with a forwards intention just to get to the ball 1st and hope there's enough contact for a penalty - certainly not a cast iron red card - especially with 2 defenders running back on the edge of the box.

 

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Don't believe everything you see on TV. Click on the main picture here and ask is the keeper going for the ball? Clear beyond any doubt what happened.

https://twitter.com/ArronNewman/status/709382545750822913

 

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So you think the keeper thought " Right I'm going to bring Fletcher down here , give away a penalty and get myself sent off"? The picture just shows that Fletcher was too quick and knocked the ball past him - instead of claiming the ball Bentley gets Fletcher. Penalty. Yellow card. Obviously you are all miffed Hourihane missed and you lost - I would be too - but I've no bias or axe to grind - just saying what I saw on telly.

 

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I'm certain had the Bury 'keeper done the same to one of your strikers on Saturday, you'd have been screaming at the referee not to send him off. Not only that, but you'd have posted on the Rochdale Forum that anyone claiming he should've been sent off were wrong and done so repeatedly(!)

 

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Yes, well you were neither at the match nor are you looking at that picture clearly. The keeper has Fletcher firmly in a leg lock, using both his hand and his own leg. Pretty classic wrestling hold I would have thought. There is nothing accidental about that. He knew what he was doing - "Fletcher isn't passing me whatever the outcome might be". He got away with it, in the same way that he got away with a second yellow card for messing about eight feet the other side of his goal while Hourihane was standing over the ball ready to take the penalty.

Gamesmanship, cheating, foul play, spineless refereeing - all rolled into one incident so yes, were were all a bit "miffed" about the whole thing.

 

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Don't be ridiculous. Do you think any player that commits a blatant foul thinks along those lines?? Of course not; they commit fouls in the heat of the moment because they think they can/might get away with it. Keeper knew that Fletcher would go on to score, so took his chances. Even if he'd seen red, he knows it's a penalty and they can be missed - better than a certain goal. You've clearly never played football at any sort of level if that's how you view the game. Not watched much either!!

 

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He has probably never played the game, as you say, and has the dubious pleasure of following Rochdale so that, for me, also rules out offering any kind of rational or valid opinion on Barnsley Football Club. I wouldn't dream of going on another club's bulletin board spouting rubbish like both he and his mate do on here.

It just baffles me why they bother - do they really think the majority of readers here care what a couple of Rochdale fans think about OUR team. I know I don't! I am interested to hear what those of us who were at the match on Saturday have to say, and that includes any Southend fan by the way. Opinions from across the Pennines are pretty much irrelevant as far I am concerned.