Should their keeper have been red carded?

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Clearly. I grew up playing football with Paul Scholes in Rochdale's Schoolboy team and have been watching Dale since I was 8 years old. I'm now 41 - so yeah I've played a bit and watched a lot.

 

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Don't agree with that, mate. He's been coming on here for a year or two now, usually with summat decent to say; certainly above the usual baiting that goes on! So not sure why he's suddenly come up with that claptrap about the penalty incident at the weekend. It's one of those rare occasions where opinions don't really come into it - all the evidence on the day, and now subsequent photographic proof, go to prove beyond all doubt that the keeper knew exactly what he was doing bringing down Fletcher and that the referee made a horrendous mistake.

 

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Well then more fool you for coming out with such crap about the incident on Saturday. Have you not got eyes??!

 

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Ok - I have seen red cards given for that before. I have also seen red cards not given. I still dont think he intended to bring down Fletcher with no thought of the ball - football is all about opinions though and obviously I can see why you all think it should have been red. I'll leave it at that.

 

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But the photo proves he did knowingly bring down Fletcher. He knew it would be a penalty and very probably a red card, but that's better than a certain goal.

 

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Bit harsh, dingdang & 442 are sound. They never come on and spam or go on a wind up. FWIW I think it does us good sometimes to see ourselves as others see us and in cases like this get an objective view.

 

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Just remembered this - but bizarrely when we played Southend away they got a penalty for our keeper colliding with their forward after he puts the ball over the bar. Penalty and yellow card were given.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OVE_CDN4lm0

 

What's more amazing is the refs reasoning that there were two players back defending the goal are seen entering the picture on the left, way behind.

 

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Conclusion - keeper knew exactly what he was doing. Referee had no idea what he was doing. End.

 

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I think by the laws of the game he had to go, but I don't think you can say that the photo is conclusive proof that he went for Fletcher and not the ball. If you take one split second of dynamic action then it can be wholly unrepresentative of what happened. The difference between getting the ball and missing it is very small in terms of timing and if you watch the video what actually happens is that he runs to meet Fletcher a bit too early, realises he has reached the edge of his box and then has to slow to a stop before trying to make the challenge without any momentum. It was a crap challenge because he misjudged the run and then was forced to challenge an onrushing attacker from standing, which is something a goalkeeper rarely does. I'm fairly sure he went for the ball but just cocked it up.

 

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Nope, disagree. On this occasion I think you can. He's actively reaching out to grab Ash round the shin - photo proves that.

 

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You cant go off a still photo! They weren't stood still they were moving at pace - Fletcher in one direction and Bentley the other. Bentley has the added advantage of being able to use his hands so of course he's going to lunge towards the man and ball with this arms - it all happens in a split second and Fletcher is too quick for him. If you are going off the still photo you can look at it loads of ways - Fletcher is kicking the back of Bentley's knee! I know that is being daft - but it is on the photo so it must be true!

 

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The ******* police manage it every time I get a speeding ticket.

 

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Very good. Lol.
Anyway no ones mentioned the red card in the 4th photo! The Barnsley player is clearly getting kicked in the head!