So which players will be sold on for a profit in January?

Cant disagree with any of that mate.....absoluely spot on.

 

Agreed. Too many with about as much heart as Brek Shea and Jacob Melis.

 

Sure we will see lots of bids following our change in playing style.

 

Confused by your use of the word ‘players’ Mr Badger. Do you mean saleable assets? You’ll be talking about old fashioned ideas like ‘winning’ next. Profit not points Mr B. Profit not points.

 

Yes problem is Conway's version of leveling up is the same as Boris Johnsons it's more like ******* up than leveling up.
If what's happening at the club is the model / strategy / plan or whatever you want to call working god help us if it starts to fail .

 

Where are the high performers apart from the goal keeper. We should be signing players to strengthen weak positions in the squad first and foremost not to cover future asset stripping. How long have we needed a decent left back.

 

Yes we signed a center half when we'd already got 5 at the club to cover a future sale but didn't strengthen an area that's needed strengthening for God knows how many windows. That's the problem with the way the board are running things we've had a good recent record of signing and selling center halves so all the attention is on on that position to the detriment of overall squad strength. We needed a left back but signed a center half then we try and fill the gap with some kid on loan from Germany and hope it works cause he's from a big club.

 

We've needed a left back for years the problem is we sign players for one reason and that's to sell we've deviated once from that while this board have been in charge and it was a success on the field but according to the board not off it, which is probably why the architects of Dykes and Morris's signatures are earning a living elsewhere and Barnsley FC are bottom of the league but for Derby getting a 21 point deduction.

 

On field success doesn't factor in the boards current strategy, success to them is player sales profit. Ultimately the strategy will fail because while ever the focus is on buying players solely with a view to sales and profitability with no thought given to the overall needs of the squad youll end up with an unbalanced squad. Do you think John Dennis sanctioned the signings of Thompson, Wilkinson, then Hendrie with a view to future profit from selling them or Patrick Cryne signed Adam Hamill because he thought hed make millions selling him. They signed those players because the manager at the time thought they'd improve the squad. You cannot run a sports team like a supermarket yes Barnsley FC need to sell players to survive it always has but unlike today players in the past were brought in because the manager needed them for his squad not because some analyst with a spreadsheet thought that in a couple of years we might be able to sell them for a bit of profit. In the past profitable sales were a handy by product of striving for on field success now they are the sole reason we sign a player and on field success doesn't even figure in the equation.
A sports team no longer interested in trying to achieve success in its sport is by definition no longer a sports team we have owners who sadly just don't understand the nature of the beast they own

 

Here we go again with the head in the sand act.
If on field success was important why have we just suffered the last 6 months.
Yes it can be both if you do it right and take into account where you need to strengthen the squad and also don't set arbitrary constraints on things like players ages. Sadly our board don't do it right.
Don't tell me on field success will increase the chance of future profit tell the CEO and board they are the ones who believe it doesn't not me.

 

Ask yourself why we lost those people amongst others and your eyes may suddenly lose the rose tinted glasses. What about the sudden change of style from one that brought success to one that's brought anything but success.
You've seen nothing that suggests the board don't want on field success because you haven't looked because you don't want to believe it's true.
But it's strange that everytime the club looks to be on the up the board have managed to stuff things up led by wrecker in chief Conway

 

There’s been lots talked about our owners and their intentions.

I think that there is a strong correlation between player values and success on the field. Unless a club has an unbelievable talent, the value of players in a team is heavily driven by the league they are playing, the contract they are on and and their recent success.

This probably goes some way to explaining why the transfer fees received by BFC lag other championship clubs. With the exception of last year we’ve struggled at the wrong end of the league and players have been on relatively short contracts. The average fees received are also massively skewed by relegated teams from the premier league off loading star talents.

So are Conway et al deliberately scuppering the clubs chances on the field? I actually don’t think this at all, as it would make no financial sense. They’ve come in to football with a view that there are profits to be made by utilising data. They have minimal experience of football prior to their investment in Nice.

Sometimes, what we may see as a conspiracy, is more incompetence. Let’s hope there isn’t more incompetence to come.

On the question of players sold for profit, I doubt, with the exception of Helik, Collins and maybe Styles, none of our players could be sold for profit in the current market.

 

Heres a question that plays on me....hypothetically lets pretend we sell a star player for £20 million (more than enough to get another half decent player in and pay eveyone else a good wage to keep them at oakwell) then we get offers for 2 or 3 of our other better players......what do you think our owners would do?