Well i hate my boss still dosn't stop me from liking the place i work and wanting to do the best i can.
I can see allot of players not liking him, but then they had it easy under AR for a season or so!!! Fair play to Davey if he's come in and stamped is authority on the place. Like any manager, they aren't there to be liked. They are there to get a job done and SD did just that.
Call me old fashioned, but I'm more likely to do something for someone I like than I am for someone I don't.
If he is a disciplinarian then it is possible that he may not be well liked, but we cannot afford to have player power getting a manager sacked. If there are trouble causers in the squad then they need shipping out as soon as possible.
It wasn't his target to keep us up though! His objective was to get us in to the play offs or automatic. *******s failed miserably. Davey's achieved this season in keeping us up and he deserves all the credit for that in very trying circumstances.
I have no problems with discipline, only in the way it is administered. If it is done in a sensible and mature manner then it invariably results in a better relationship between manager and player. However, if it is done in an amateurish, childish, and petty manner then it will always result in a poorer relationship between the two parties. Unfortunately, IMHO, Mr. Davey's style seems to indicate the second of the two options.
How does it? One incident with Antony Kay - where his hand was forced to address the story publicly due to an insider leaking the stories to the paper? We have no idea what he's like with the players, or really, what went on in that incident.
RE: Right............... I would suggest that possibly the three who have already signed, wouldn't be too sure about getting one from anywhere else at this stage. At the time when he was at the Academy, they would have seen him as a coach, not as a manager. I suspect that he may be a better coach than he is a manager. There are different skills involved.
Why was his hand forced. He is very keen to keep saying "We don't negotiate contracts in the press or media" so why does he not follow the same procedure with other important issues. If he needed to do anything publicly about the Kay incident, surely it would be to find out who the "insider" was and to publicly discipline them, to the point of expulsion if necessary. The fact is that if the incident had been properly handled the "insider" wouldn't have had access to the information, to be able to leak it.
It couldnt possibly be the players reaction to Daveys ways that has been childish could it? No that would never happen. Its got to be Daveys fault. As for the Kay incident, I think the club are damned if they do and damned if they dont. If he had been missing from the squad and there had been no announcement or indication from the club then fans would have been complaining about being kept in the dark and being treat like outsiders. They release a statement giving the clubs reasons and they are criticised for being to open.
Sorry but I wouldn't work for a Barsteward Discipline and motivation are fine but to be a proper 'nasty vindictive barsteward' I would avoid like the plague. Worked for a few in my time when I had no chance of complaining as with a mortgage and a family I needed the job.
Yes the player's reactions could have been childish and petty but the player doesn't issue the press release because they aren't allowed to. Regardless, the manager is supposed to be the mature professional and as such he should steer the player onto a better path. That is the skill of management as opposed to the skills of coaching which are solely related to football. Having read your previous posts on this subject, it is obvious that you think Davey can do no wrong. I have no problem with that, you are entitled to your opinion. However, whilst I think he may be a decent coach, I do not think he has the skills to be a good manager. My opinion, which is just as valid as yours.
I dont think Davey can do no wrong (but I feel their are some who think he can do no right). What I do think is that he is a young manager, in his first job, and will make mistakes as he goes along. He is on a very steep learning curve and he has admitted himself that there are things he would have done differently already. I also think that managers should be allowed to manage their way. If things do go wrong he will be the one who loses his job, so he should be allowed to call the shots. And where have I suggested that your opinion is not valid? I merely gave my my opinion on the issue. These forums are about debate and differing opinions. You are fully entitled to yours.
Has anyone considered that the insider may have been one of the Team who was fed up with Kays behaviour.</p> </p>
RE: Lots of them think that! a manager aint there to be liked luv,he,s there to kick there ass when they step out of line,which is what we,ve needed at barnsley for sometime!
RE: Call me old fashioned, but thing is the players in ritchies team would get in the team regardless cos he had his little favourites.Davey drops em if they are not up to it,i know which one i,d rather have.