Statement from bfc next few mins

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  1. Wat

    Watcher_Of_The_Skies Well-Known Member

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    Nothing in the statement to say they didn't have an approach, just they don't have one at the moment.

    "No bids are being evaluated"

    bold is my emphasis.
     
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    Also, an enquiry and a bid are very different things.
     
  3. Gally

    Gally Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    I think you are spot on with all points made there Jay. I don't think the statement from the club is contradictory to the Chronicle article. I've also heard rumours in the past that Mrs Cryne has got more involved/attached to the club in the last few years and a previous bid was rejected for this reason.
     
  4. Jay

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    Just to add to what I wrote earlier.

    If The Chronicle found out that Barnsley FC were going to sell off Oakwell and ground share with Sheffield Wednesday would you want them to report that? The club don't want the story to get out, they don't want any protests before the sale goes ahead, would you want The Chronicle to keep quiet? Or would you like an independent local paper that tells the public what's happening?

    Obviously this isn't going to happen, it's hypothetical. What did happen in the past though was that we went in to administration, were sold to a man who mortgaged our club to the Sterling Consortium and we nearly lost the whole thing. Maybe, if we'd had a journalist at The Chronicle at the time who was prepared to do some digging, we could have heard about it and done something about it.
     
  5. Wayne

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    It's the wording of the Chron article that was wrong, if they said McCrory had just made a enquiry then it would be correct, but they said he was a few days away from taking over.
     
  6. redarmychris

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    If the Chronicle found this out I would definitely want them to print it.

    I think you've got me all wrong here. My gripe with this story is the timing of it, it could have and might have been extremely distracting. The last 2 weeks has been absolutely massive it terms of getting the right players in to save our club from relegation. Mansford and Wilson had to get it absolutely spot on with recruitment. Any flops or players missed out on during this transfer window could play a big part in sending us down.

    Now whilst this is also hypothetical, it could have happened..

    Mansford contacts Nick Proschwitz agent, asks about a loan deal, the agent says yes Ben its a possibility. I know there's a few other clubs interested but I'll speak with Brucey and get back to you. Bruce gives the agent the go ahead to allow Proschwitz to any interested Championship club.

    Meanwhile Mansford has a call from some journo asking for the details of this takeover bid printed in the Barnsley Chronicle. Mansford knows he's waiting on a more important call so he deals with the journo quickly and professionally dismissing any talk of a takeover.

    An hour goes by and Mansford still hasnt heard from Proschwitz agent so decides to call him again. The agent picks up and says sorry Ben your phone was engaged when I called. Donny were interested and Nick isnt particulary bothered who he signs for as long as he's promised games so he's off there now instead.

    Yes its far-fetched and hypothetical. But what I'm trying to get at is that the club had much more important matters to be dealing with than journalists and radio stations trying to get news on this story. As well as fans becoming apprehensive as we were unaware as to exactly what was going on.
     
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  7. Whi

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    Where are all the early posters in this thread who were criticising Murray? Seems there's only redarmychris (bless him) still fighting that corner. Fair play to him for that. But the posts from - in particular - Oxford, Jay and Hicksy have pretty much nailed it. So I'm not going to repeat it all just for the sake of it.

    The statement the club have issued practically admits that talks have been ongoing. It then suggests at 'present' nothing is happening. So from what my tiny mind can gather, I think McCrory and his consortium have not come to an agreement with Cryne. Therefore, it's business as usual.


    Trust me, if this story of Matthew Murray's was indeed a load of cobblers, the club would have flatly denied it last week, when we had no fixture to play. But the talks have clearly now ended, if we are to believe the club.


    And I disagree strongly with anyone suggesting the Chronicle be a mouthpiece for BFC.
     
  8. redarmychris

    redarmychris Well-Known Member

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    Don't patronise me.
     
  9. Whi

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    How was I patronising you? I was defending you if owt. A load of you got on your high hoss immediately in this thread, and only you remained on your hoss once the sensible opinions arrived. Kudos for that. Still wrong, mind. But yes. Fair play.

    And remember, you called me a lovely person t'other day. So don't get soppy all of a sudden.
     
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    Spot on Kev; the CEO would have been informed as soon as the owner found out.
     
  11. redarmychris

    redarmychris Well-Known Member

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    There was no need for the '(bless him)'. You're a self proclaimed lovely person so its hardly offensive.

    I dont believe I'm wrong at all.
     
  12. Dra

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    Have only seen extracts from the original article, but the first paragraph says the consortium hoped to take control of the club within the next few days. MM would have notes/recording to back that from someone linked to the consortium, and his editor will have been chuffed with a credible scoop born out of good journalism that will have sold extra papers. The fact that the takeover hasn't gone through will always cause some people to kick off about inaccuracy, **** stirring journalists, over-hypying etc, but don't think the Chron said that a deal could/would happen within days; you can argue that the consortium were being over-hopeful maybe, but that's about it.
     
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    Can I just say that I think I was right to be sceptical?
     
  14. Jay

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    It's a fair point. It's the first good one I've read that has been against the publishing of the article. We'd have to be tremendously unlucky for the scenario to play out like you have described, but that's not the point, I understand what you're saying.

    I still don't think there is anything wrong in the article, but I think Matt would have been better delaying it for a week and publishing it this Friday after the transfer window has closed. Or, as things have transpired, not publishing at all if, as the club statement suggests, the deal is dead in the water. I can understand why he didn't, he would have missed the scoop, but as it turns out, there wasn't one, or at least not one that he believed was so urgent. Difficult call.

    Good hand well played mate.
     
  15. Whi

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    You called myself and Matthew cnuts. Without any provocation whatsoever. So as I say, don't get all soppy when someone strikes back.

    Unlike you, I don't go around randomly firing off vulgar insults at folk I've not had the honour of meeting.

    And, since you joined this forum you've had the habit of trying to dig me out. I don't forget. One of your first posts was an insult against me, remember?


    I enjoy your contributions to this forum, even the insults aimed in my direction (sometimes indirectly). You're clearly educated. So as I say, I'm not offended in any way and you can carry on regardless for me. But if you're going to act in a certain manner with someone, don't then get all feminine if they retort.


    Bless you. :)
     
  16. Whi

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    And as I say [MENTION=55796]redarmychris[/MENTION], you've stuck to your guns on the topic and even if I'm not inclined to agree with it I give you great credit for doing so, and by putting across some thoughtful opinions.

    We'll have to agree to disagree on the subject, but I think we must agree that it's business as usual (based on the BFC statement) and as you suggested earlier we can now focus on the most important thing as BFC supporters and that's getting behind the team/manager/club.

    You Reds.
     
  17. redarmychris

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    I shouldn't have called anyone a lovely person. I openly accept it was an unacceptable way to put my views across. I've never really enjoyed MM publications. But a few weeks a go he called McCourt embarrassing. Since then I have lost all patience with the guy. My views on this story being printed however have nothing to do view my opinion on MM as a journalist. I would have been annoyed at which ever reporter printed this story purely because of the timing.

    I do remember having various digs at you. I dont apologise for them as I feel I've always made a fair point.
     
  18. Marc

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    For the record, I disagree with what the Chronicle did. But no high horses were involved, and no 'sensible opinions' have swayed me. I stand by my original position.

    :)


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  19. Mr C

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    It's panned out as most people called it. Of course it's great to have independent reporting of club affairs, but the job still has to be done properly. There may have been some truth in Murray's story, but the club will never admit to it now, which he should have known. He may have been able to nut-meg Don Rowing on this, but not this current mob. Now he'll just have to roll with that and see where his credibility lies when the dust settles. Obviously, he'll be on the ****-list at Oakwell.
     
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  20. redarmychris

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    Appreciated Jay. Now roll on the weekend. Just picked up my tickets and feeling very optimistic!
     

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