Steve McPhail named int team of week

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  1. Gue

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    Thank **** for that. Thought this bbs was inhabited by total mongs.
     
  2. Gue

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    RE: errrm.........that will be Kay

    Nowhere near the same anything!!
     
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    I have had this debate about Kay this morning

    Guy who went to the Donny match said Kay was crap.
    Now for me, you cant ask a player to play in positions all over the field and then when he comes back from injury put him back into the position where he is more suited to and where he started is proffesional career but hasen't played there for yonks and hope that suddenly he will revert back to the midfielder who gained player of the year only a short time ago.
    Just dunt happen
    But Kay is still the best midfielder at the club
    For example, for every goal Burns and McPhail score between them, Kay will score 2
     
  4. Gue

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    With the greatest of respect

    "But Kay is still the best midfielder at the club
    For example, for every goal Burns and McPhail score between them, Kay will score 2&quot;</p>



    That is absolute nonsense.
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    RE: I have had this debate about Kay this morning

    if that was the case why does he not play in midfield?

    i agree with the comments about he cannot be asked to play every position under the sun and for the first time in his career he has a settled position Center back which why we are probably seeing the best of him no becasue he is playing one position fairly regular!

    Burns is a good grafter but he recieves the ball and runs the same direct where he recieved it from becasue he can't turn a man like McPhail can.

    what evidence do you have that Kay would score twice as many as Mcphail, plus people have to remeber Mcphail is not a goal scoring midfielder never has been and never will be!

    His touch and control are head and shoulders above anyone else at the club, i'm sure people expect too much from hm becasue of where he has come from plus the level he played at!!!

    Kay is a defender and a good one at that based on this season!!!!!
     
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    RE: errrm.........that will be Kay

    ok your right he is ***** and should be scoring/setting up 5 a game, what a waste!
     
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    if that was the case why does he not play in midfield?

    you probably have missed the debate on here about Carbon and Reid and why we need 2 more centre halves
    i.e. both good players but both injury prone
    Why is Kay playing centre half - because of the above reason and also there is no one else that can do the job better
    What evidence is there that Kay will score more than Burns and McPhail put together
    Look at the stats, I haven't seen the stats but I remember Kay scoring some important goals last season
    This season I cant think of one (not one !!!) McPhail goal as for Burns he scored a 25 yarder earlier in the season. Oh and one that curled in from a free kick, and thats it
     
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    Kay

    Kay: Good defender, crap midfielder.
    McPhail: Good midfielder, probably a crap defender.

    Anybody who hasn't noticed how important McPhail has been this season is a clown.
    Fact.
     
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    Anybody who hasn't noticed how important McPhail has been this season is a clown.

    I'm not saying McPhail is crap I'm saying
    Midfielder
    McPhail good
    Kay better
    Why ???

    Kay
    uses ball better in setting up attacks, quicker release of the ball to forwards
    better header of the ball in attack
    better header of the ball in defence
    can defend
    better motor, covers more ground
    CAN SCORE GOALS

    McPhail
    Tidys up in midfield
    Better passer of the ball given time
    Can slow game down to suit play
     
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    Ant Kay's distribution is legendary

    I've heard it all now!!
     
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    RE: if that was the case why does he not play in midfield?

    great quote by the way "Look at the stats, I haven't seen the stats" LOL good argument :pff

    like i said mcphail, or burns even are not goal scoring midfielders but the wingers are and the STATS are there to prove this, yet your argument is not about who scores more but about Mcphail's passing ability but your saying Kay is better becasue he would score more? So Lmapard is better than Ronaldinho then?

    here is a stat for you we have lost 3 time when Mcphail has started out of the 9 defeats we have had this season!

    I'm not knocking Kay but he is not the best midfielder at the club!
     
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    RE: Anybody who hasn't noticed how important McPhail has been this season is a clown.

    Better passer of the ball given time? what the? he shrugs men off and then lays the pass off so here is another one for you, Mcphail creates space for himself!

    Honestly do you watch the games or even go? But **** it the way you have described Kay as a midfielder he is btter than gerrard
     
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    I think Kay is a great player (me favourite TARN player)

    But he's certainly not the best midfielder at the club.

    He's done really, really well in central defence this season. Some of his performances have been fantastic, but have gone unnoticed by many here. I think all those mistakes last season made a lot of people give up on him, but the lad has buckled down and done really well. For me, he's been our best performer in that position, but I'm biased. (Are you allowed to have favourite players when you're in your 30s? Dunt think you are, are you!)

    However, the reports from the Donny game suggest he had a bit of mare in midfield. I agree with you that you can't expect much from him in that position when he's been played in central defence all year (and when he's just recovered from injury) but if he was the best midfield player at the club he'd have taken that in his stride.

    Maybe, if he's given the proper coaching and played in midfield on a regular basis he could mature to be an excellent midfield player. Maybe he's got the potential to be the best midfielder at the club (maybe not), but he's definitely not there yet.
     
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    OK Jay - read the following and point out what is wrong.......and Wath Red

    No one is going to convince me differently - when Kay was playing regularly in midfield he was a bigger threat to the opposition than McPhail.
    Repeat, McPhails Ok.........its just Kay is better

    Kay
    uses ball better in setting up attacks, quicker release of the ball to forwards
    better header of the ball in attack
    better header of the ball in defence
    can defend
    better motor, covers more ground
    CAN SCORE GOALS

    McPhail
    Tidys up in midfield
    Better passer of the ball given time
    Can slow game down to suit play

    Wath Red
    Not looking at the stats - just shows how confident a guy can be
     
  15. Gue

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    You talking about football ...

    ... is like asking Dirk to comment on marriage.

    You both know **** all about the respective subjects.

    You feeling any better?
     
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    RE: I think Kay is a great player (me favourite TARN player)

    i agree with them comments and i think he has come into his own this season and center back is defo his best position, each player has there own natural position and i think Kay has found his in defence, becasue he has been versitile in the past!
     
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    RE: OK Jay - read the following and point out what is wrong.......and Wath Red

    McPhails Ok.........its just Kay is better

    Kay
    uses ball better in setting up attacks, quicker release of the ball to forwards
    better motor, covers more ground
    CAN SCORE GOALS

    better header i agree, but thats it! So your saying Mcphail holds up play? when you say covers more ground is that running round like a headless chicken?

    I think you should tell AR this, i bet he'll be kicking himself not realising Kay was the best midfielder at the club!

    like i said when Mcphail has started e have only lost 3 times, surely that tells you something?
     
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    Kay

    2003 - 2004
    Player of the year
    Young player of the year
    Disabled supporters player of the year

    From Official site
    15........ Anthony Kay...........MIDFIELDER !!!

    He has had to cover other positions at the club because the club hasn't got the players
    This does not mean he is poor or McPhail is better
    We have not had the best out of Kay from midfield because he has had to play in other positions
    We have missed him playing in midfield
    But he is still the best midfielder at the club
    PS. his dad (Rolly) shot me in the back when I was a kid. True
    Go on say it - why am I not surprised !!!
     
  19. Gue

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    Best midfielders at the club - in order:

    (1) McPhail
    (2) Burns
    (3) Devaney
    (4) Shuker
    (5) Howard
    (6) Tonge
    (7) Kay
    (8) Tin of paint
    (9) Wroe

    Kay can strike a long ball 60 yards in the right direction - when stuck at centre half with loads of time to think about what he's doing.
    When in central midfield - he panics & gets rid as quickly as possible ... and usually misses the simple 5 yard pass.

    He's not a good enough footballer to play in midfield.
    Could turn out to be a quality centre half.

    On a stick.
     
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    RE: Kay

    so him winning player of the season awards makes him the best? the season he won it we had overall a poor team that exceeded expectations to start with and faded away!

    ever thought why he hasn't done since? because the quality of players have gone up around him, how you can say we miss him in midfield is beyond me, especially when we are in the position we are, yes he is versitile and it is not his fault personally this is the best i ave seen him play ever and he is playing center back!

    i can gaurentee 9/10 fans would agree that McPhail is the best midfielder at the club, like i've said anyone who goes to games would knwo and see this!!!!!!!!
     

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