Stop the Boats?

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  1. Gimson&theBarnsleys

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    The housing crisis is more to do with greedy developers and past Tory policies than it is illegal immigrants.
     
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    I have no issue with either, high sugar and processed foods should be banned. If healthy foods options were made cheaper then perhaps there would be less obesity, but if I was a betting man, obesity is higher in lower income households.

    Has anyone actually seen the proposed policy for smoking ban, perhaps it states that that pubs need to provide a non and smoking area outside.
     
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    Hard to say as the Tories halted all processing for over a year. Went from costing millions to costing billions. Also why we have so many hotels full of unprocessed asylum seekers.

    Prior to the pause for Rwanda program around 70-80% acceptance rate. Around 50% finding consistent employment - which I think is a language barrier/lack of integration schemes.
     
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    The government should also look at the contracts given to those hotel companies, most are probably Tory donors, a bit like the Bibby Stockholm one that cost a decking fortune
     
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    I'm pretty sure the 750000 figure quoted is the nett figure, the actual figure being about 1.2 million and not including the boat crossings.
    If people would look at the figures logically, they'd see the 'illegals' are very very small part of the total figure and are being used as a distraction. I'm not saying nothing should be done about it, but trying to put it in perspective.
     
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    You can eat for cheap without buying processed *****. I think alot of people are lazy and takeaways are quick, some people have a fast pace life so macdonalds and whatever is convenient, some people don't exercise move more eat less=lose weight.
    They should do something about it definitely but more fast food places keep appearing. And drinks like monster with about 28 grams of sugar per can are no good for anyone.
     
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    completely agree, it needs addressing as it will only get worse
     
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    No it just makes a point that not all coming from war torn countries and that some are exploiting the system
     
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    I recently watched Flintoff's series about training up young lads from Preston. One lad had left his mum and brother in Afghanistan and made the trek to the UK. He was beaten up by the police in several countries. He had some foster parents who he was living with whilst waiting for his claim to be processed. Arrived when he was 15. Sound lad and well liked by the other working class lads in his team.

    I'll repeat myself, your enemy is not asylum seekers or immigrants. Your enemy are billionaires and a society that promotes their needs over everyone elses and governments that enable them, all whilst allowing the country to go to ruin and public services to be run down.

    There's plenty to go around, they just don't want to share it about.
     
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    I'd say the enemy is the goverment who could stop the boats and control immigration and asylum properly.
     
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    Well that's partly true in so much that the Tories were completely useless.

    But fundamentally they want cheap labour because Capitalism depends on it and their politics (Labour or Conservative) represent that system to one degree or another.
     
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    Immigrants tend to work more than those born here.

    Immigrants tend to pax more tax than those born here.

    Immigrants aren’t the problem. Those born here who can’t because working are a problem.
     
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    True, Apart from none or the near on 100k in hotels are eligible to work.
     
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    Not until the government decides so, no.
     
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    About 30,000. Which, for people travelling via a dangerous method to circumvent well trodden other routes, is quite significant.

    For people concerned about the overall level of immigration, it’s the extreme end of a wider problem.
     
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    That lad is so grateful to be here,so humble and hard working ,he is a pleasure to listen to and is going to be a reight cricketer all being well.
     
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    There's a back log which will already take years to sort and more coming every day. Like already said 7k have crossed since the election.
     
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    So, what do you propose?
     
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    I don't know I'm not kier starmer but getting control of the borders, get the 100k back log of claimants sorted and the hotels emptied and create a system for genuine asylum seekers to seek refuge work and contribute. That would be a start. As the current farce is costing the tax payers over 6billion a year.
     
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    What would be a start is actually giving people somewhere to apply for asylum, these places were closed down in 2010 & a small boat problem was created, very rarely heard of them before then!
     

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