Stopping free school meals

The point he's making g is I'm not responsible isn't it??

 

I like to think that some posters are not fully up with the facts rather than the uncaring not my problem feks they come across as sometimes.

 

The problem, as I've said earlier, is that the kids who aren't being fed often face other issues that can't be addressed by welfare. They need other agencies to deal with these people. Those who genuinely need the help can still get it but a universal benefit is completely unnecessary.

 

But that's just it Mario as I've said earlier these agencies have been cut massively some not fit for purpose.some of these social workers are on medication seeing some of these cases.
Universal is the only way to ensure they get a meal.
It's only for the very young ones as the ones a bit older will get a meal somehow.
I fear if we can't do that as a society whilst harbouring multi multi Billionaires and giving them tax cuts we may as well give up on a civilised society.imo

 

The problem is not a government issue its society as a whole. Given that folk put having a new phone, sky, broadband and other materialistic items above basic necessities nothing will change.

 

This. I don't really like the concept of child benefit and I think it's fairly clear that universal benefits have huge advantages over means tested ones (not only for reducing stigma, but for supporting equality in all things). I'd scrap CB altogether and put all of the money towards universal school meals and subsidised childcare.

I don't intend to have children myself, but I accept that society should share some of the responsibility for raising them. I don't think the best way of doing that is by handing out cheques to parents, but sensibly planned universal benefits are genuinely useful.

 

Most children in need are from real poverty backgrounds where parents are mentally / physically disabled or substance dependant or learning difficulties abandoned by the agencies setup to help them by labour and conservative councils excused by an ideologicall govt .
But dont let that stop you using captions from telly and papers.

 

Only a tory would spell it with an e.

 

That seems a good idea to me and if you throw in school uniforms trips etc I'd probably go along with that with high scrutiny on the agencies that provide them as complacency is the worst enemy of these schemes.

 

Haven't agreed with you on other things but think your bang on with your points on this subject

 

Bang on again Marlon.

 

I don't see why the government should be sending money to Africa. Perhaps if they didn't they could tax us all a little less and then people could send their own money over to make up the shortfall. Only the shortfall wouldn't be covered, because people don't really give a stuff about them, and their money is being sent to placate those who feel it's okay to spend other people's money.

As for telling people to starve, the point is rapidly approaching when we won't have the option to decide who does and does not starve. The planet can only support so many people. The message needs to go out today that if you have a child today it may not be able to eat in twenty or thirty years.

 

Ffs

 

Sense on the BBS?! You have my vote as well.

 

Prevention is better than cure...

 

I know how much you like an 'e'.

 

We're not going to agree on this. The taxpayer is not there to make up for shortcomings of bad parents just as they're not there to provide an income for the lazy and workshy who choose it as a lifestyle option. It's there to protect the vulnerable and those who genuinely need it. Universal benefits are a step too far.

 

This isn't any means of prevention though. The majority of parents don't need it and take care of their kids themselves. The vulnerable can still be protected without there being a universal benefit being handed out.

 

What a good old fashioned off the tangent rant.

Country's ****ed while people see an I phone as important as feeding kids.

 

It's not doing a very good job then if that's what it's for judging by the many many cases of children suffering and social workers stressed to the limits.
I'd rather my taxes be spent on the vulnerable than propping up the banks or rich company's tax breaks even some Tory MP's are questioning this although it's not highlighted in the media/press .
Even Cameron is not comfortable or convincing in these policies and I really think it will cause a split in the Tory party
Seems SME of their supporters are happy though