Surely THIS must make the tories UNELECTABLE

human rights act has been used and abused and too many people have felt wronged by it,its about time somebody did something,pity its the tories as I hate them with a passion,but the labour party,they wouldn't have the balls or gumption.

 

Used and abused because you don't agree with the outcomes?

 

Knew this was coming

http://bbs.barnsleyfc.org.uk/showth...on-s-cleared-the-decks&highlight=human+rights

 

It was drawn up after the second world war and was probably fit for purpose then but these days it is just no longer workable due to the way it can be abused and implemented. It needs a major overhaul or scrapping and replacing with a bill of rights.

 

Surely you can't be serious. we have all seen the numerous examples that any right minded person wouldn't agree with

 

absolute clap trap.

 

We are the country of human rights..........we invented it.
We are known throughout the world as the country of freedom and human rights.
Has no one on here heard of the Magna Carta ?

We don't need any other country telling us about Human Rights.
We definitely don't need Europeans to tell us that prisoners should be allowed to vote.

This latest announcement by the Tories is going to get them even more votes.
The battle lines at the next General Election will be between the Tories and UKIP.

As things stand its going to be close who gets second place at the next general election...........UKIP or Labour

 

We've all seen the way cases are usually misunderstood and portrayed in the media.

 

You mean any right wing minded person

 

sorry but if yre just going anything but solid labour left wing I'm not playing

 

Do you know how many cases we lose each year in the ECHR? About 10. There's only about 1% that actually get through to being heard as they are kicked out at the first stage. Yet we want to leave, with all that entails, over a couple of things we don't agree with. Mainly because it's got caught up in the anti-EU debate of which it has nowt to do with.

 

Strikes me that there's a good chunk of people who view authoritarian governments in other countries with deep suspicion, but then when our government moves toward being more authoritarian, passionately defend them. Can't quite get my head around that.

 

I certainly hope so.

In 2006 the Conservative party was rounded on and discredited by every senior legal figure in the country for making the exact same announcement. They ended up running for the hills, tails between their legs.

They have been building up to this for some time, but could clearly never openly go for it in a coalition. Now the coalition is effectively dead, they can open up all their genuine intentions. The only thing that they can't front up about is privatisation of the NHS - but it clearly is something that they do want.

It's a double win for the posh boys if they get their way - first of all they don't need to worry about those pesky human rights when they make striking illegal, but in the same fell swoop they will comprehensively undermine our economic union with Europe.

By selling claptrap stories about 'political correctness gone mad' and raving about how we must treat convicted prisoners with dignity or even give some back the vote - they might just con enough people to happily hand back their enshrined and inalienable basic human rights.

You see the Tory party don't disagree with the giving of Rights - it's the fact that they are given evenly and consistently to everyone. Sadly, for the Tory party this includes gay people, Muslims, immigrants, the unemployed, the disabled, the trades unions, members of the political opposition and so on.

If only we didn't have human rights they could deport people without appeal or due process. They could infringe on the privacy of Private and family life. They could detain people for longer periods of time for lesser reason and without accountability.

Best yet, when they do slash public spending and vulnerable groups suffer as a consequence - nobody can complain to Strasbourg. When people who are ill and unfit to work, they can be forced back into demeaning roles on 'workfair' schemes that pay far less than minimum wage - with no promise of employment at the end of it.

Once we get rid of the obstacles of 'human rights' for everyone - within the boundaries of Tory 'common sense' of course - and Chris Grayling or Theresa May gets to say who deserves/does not deserve them, and when - WOW - we can roll back equality laws too. Pay the little ladies less, get the gays out of the military, put those troublesome Muslims back in their place (what is going on in those evil mosques eh?).

And what about that irritating Child Abuse inquiry that Theresa May is trying to stifle at the moment? Elm Guest House? No - that can go away. Freedom of Information? Transparency on MPs expenses?

By the time we're done we will have gone back to the 1930s - no NHS, no welfare for the unemployed 'and workshy', no human rights, and plenty of tax breaks for big corporations that back the Tories, more tax breaks for the top earners, and more tax breaks for the people inheriting big money.

These are not policies to benefit society. They are bigoted, insular policies, that will harden class inequality and let the Conservative party have their way with every aspect of public and private life.

Sickening. My wife and I are making genuine contingency plans to leave the country if the Conservative Party win the next general election. Genuinely.

 

If only everyone had your common sense and understanding.. the problem is there are non so blind as they who will not see,......but they will see when its too late... anyway ive packed just incase the penny doesnt drop in time..

 

Great post mate.
The popular media will help them with the propaganda against human rights in exchange for watered down regulation that's why its not been resolved yet but if it looks as though the Tories are in with a shout at getting elected you watch them( media) go to town on the other parties,the only saving grace for now is they don't want to upset labour too much in case they get in.

Not many know what the human rights bill actually entails and how it effects their lives,the press hysteria on the hate preacher and other popular stories eg immigration etc is constantly beamed at them untill they think that's all its actually used for.

IMO they won't be able to abolish it as the EU will threaten to cut the UK adrift from the trade aspect of the union then the Tories will come under pressure from their rich paymasters but it sounds good to some of the electorate .

The battle line is drawn by both parties in that the Tories are for the rich and will rob the lowest paid to try and bribe the middle earners to get them in. Hopefully the British people will see through it and exercise their sense of fairness and send this horrible,greedy rabble back into the obscurity that the bankers and lib dems pulled them from.

 

PS don't leave

Dont let the Bstards grind you down

 

Sorry but the only thing that should make the Tories unelectable is this.

 

UKIP will be a distant 4th in terms of seats won in England. If they are lucky they might squeeze past the Lib Dems into 3rd.

But the SNP and the Ulster Unionists will have more MP's than UKIP.

 

which shows how ridiculous our voting system is,i'll bet they arnt a distant 4th in terms of the number of votes received nationally.I remember many members of the trades unions and the labour party beggin for PR during the 80's when they couldn't get anywhere near the tories,not sure they'd want it now though.I cant ever remember a government getting in with even half the votes cast,not sure what kind of democracy that makes us.