Teacher from Barnsley guilty of assaulting a 12 year old

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  1. sadbrewer

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    Its more than a few years since I've seen him but he was one of my friends at school...a great lad.
     
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    It may be an old fashioned view and a little out of touch in these modern times when teachers can't even look at the little darlings in the wrong way but I completely agree. I feel sorry for the poor guy.
     
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    he was also my teacher at school and remained a friend since - theres alot more to the story the teacher suffered well over 18months of abuse to himself, his family and his property - reported to the police on several occasions and even cctv footage of the kids causing trouble

    the kid in question had been one of a group pelting the teachers home with snowballs - they were asked to stop more than once and on one of these occasions he teacher was spat at... i think being spat at is a breaking point for most people whether it being a 12 year old kid doing it or you are a teacher yourself

    like posted above he has kept his job - and i for one are happy that, that is the case
     
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    Lad in question should be permanently excluded, teacher should be given an award and a payrise. If I'd been pushed/given a slap by a teacher for behaving like that, I'd have expected another clip round the ear when I got home. The tide needs turning.
     
  5. Dragon Tyke

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    in my day My Dad would have

    given me a leathering then taken me round to say sorry. The sooner we get out of this nonsense the better. Cane, slipper whatever...they are truly needed back .

    "Spare the rod, Spoil the child"

    and that's so bloody true. Even parents cannot do the necessary these days.
     
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    My thoughts exactly - the problem today is that Kids know that they can pretty much do what they like and the teachers are powerless. I thought the balance was about right when I went to school. Corporal punishment was an option but not actually used very often. I remember a tech drawing teacher who had a fearsome reputation and in our first lesson walked in whacked a cane on his desk very hard - then left it in view for the entire year - he never had to use it or even threaten to again. The class all payed attention and no one misbehaved. Today he would be fired instantly for frightening poor little children
     
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    The incident didn't happen at school, nor was it one of his pupils, or indeed a child that attends his school. It was outside his house in Barnsley with one of the local kids. He works in Doncaster. Discipline in schools isn't the issue here. The fact that the man accused of the assault is a teacher is a bit of an irrelevance really.

    The issue, as far as I'm concerned, is the lad's parents. I presume it was them who reported the incident to the police, as 12 year old lads tend not to do that. The lad in question was acting like a nob head, but I'm not going to moralise on that too much, I was 12 years old once and I acted like a nob head on numerous occasions. It's up to responsible adults to correct that nob head behaviour. His parents, who have the most influence on that, should have found out exactly what went on.

    Fact is their lad was harassing a member of the community. It's that behaviour that should have been punished. He then got pushed in to a bush. So what? Being pushed in to a bush never has been and never will be assault, our society needs to get a grip. It should never have been reported to the police and the lad should have had a serious ballacking about his role in the incident. And made to apologise to the teacher for making his life a misery. End of incident.

    Instead we've basically said that anti-social behaviour is OK and if anyone challenges such behaviour it will be them that has to face the consequences. It's a terrible lesson this lad has learnt. The majority of us were nob heads when we were 12, but we had enough positive influences on us to make us change our ways. I have no doubt that after the way this has been handled that lad is going to be a nob head all his life.
     
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    Summed up pretty well as far as I'm concerned.
     
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    The so called child, along with others had been giving the guy abuse and grief at his home premises. If the child's father had brought the lad up properly he would not have been doing it. If this was being done to you at your home, what would you have done? Ring the police, NO response, tell them to pack it in, NO response. You would then have gone out with the intention of killing the little prikc. This teacher did not commit the offence in school, and under the circumstances I think it is not a stackable offences, particularly with his good record.
     
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    Thanks for the explanation - I wasnt aware the kid wasn't even a pupil at the school (not that really it makes much difference)
    some very good points

    and are some people seriously suggesting an appropriate course of action is to punish the teacher so severely he will be unable to work again for the rest of his career - with all the subsequent loss of income - pension and sense of worth that that entails. - In fact very little difference professionally to the punishment given to a serial child abuser.
     
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    To be fair, it probably is.

    However, I do agree with your post.
     
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    That's the problem with the youth of today. No respect for their elders.

    When i was younger (only 34 at mo) if i said owt wrong to next door neighbour i'd have got a clip round lug hole.

    Pushing into a bush and being done for assault. What a load of ******. If they did it to my lad when hes older i'd just tell him it's his fault. In my day he would have got worse than a push
     
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    What a teacher this man was, when i saw it i was gutted for the bloke. One of the best artist about as a teacher and he always had time for his students, numerous times he would let me off detention because he didnt think it was right me stopping in longer than i had to.

    he use to be a wrestler in his younger days, superfly or something he was called.

    really hope he does get off, will happily shake his hand and offer him support next time i see him.
     

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