The Chris Corke thing.........it has put a lot of people in a very awkward position

RE: I met him once

And you say that as an individual. I feel sorry for the people who gave this bloke a second chance and had him around their children. I would be thinking about what was going through his head when he was in their company

 

But look at the statement at top, he admits it was wrong of him. He knows it, of course he bloody does.

 

Thing is Harrow

Your lot have helped introduce him to people who have been new to your group and were unaware of Mr Corke's past. Not only that, but you've gone out of your way to try and silence anyone who brought up the issue.

Sorry mate, but that was well out of order.

 

Or...

He knew that admitting it was wrong was the best way of making friends again.

Like your mother probably used to say to you: "You're not sorry for doing it, you're just sorry you got caught."

To be fair, I don't know the guy or anything about any of this. I'm just pointing out that somebody accepting in print or in court that something that they did was wrong doesn't necessarily correspond with them actually believing that it was.

 

The last time I was at the Courthouse

was before the Derby match. One of our group was a young girl, daughter of one of the others. I'm not sure if he was there on that day. Makes my skin crawl to think he may have seen the young 'un if so.

 

Nudger

The only way anyone can excuse this sort of behaviour on grounds of mental health is that if the accused simply has no reasoning to understand that this type of thing is morally wrong.

The majority of sex offenders know full well that it is wrong, either through admission or by attempting to cover their tracks and as such are not mentally ill, or at least not so deluded that they can't rationally accept their wrong doing.

Stop defending this behaviour on the grounds of mental health. it is wrong to do so and is an insult to those who are genuinely mentally ill.

 

Disagree YN

You say that 'Talking to CC you just wouldn't think anything bad of the guy'. Well you might not but I spoke to him once and knew straight away that he was a man full of his own self importance. Sat right in the middle of a large group all hanging off his every word. Not even having the courtesy to lift his head up once except to soak up their admiring looks.

As for everything else, I agree with your sentiments because I would agree that people who commit certain crimes need help, I have always said this and I have always believed that help should be openly available to anyone wrestling with these feelings BEFORE they commit an offence.

That said, Chris Corke DID commit an offence and was given a punishment and reabilitation order. This order was to last 3 years and Chris was found guilty of a repeat offence either just outside of this three years or just inside it.

Now the thing is YN, he COULD have gotten help if he was wrestling with his feelings. If he started having urges then he could very easily have gone to a councillor and talked about them, undergone a course of treatment, and if necessary, been housed in a secure unit to ensure that he was 100% unable to reoffend. Chris had the contacts to do this, built up over the last three years. He will have spoken to councillors who would not judge him for going to them with his problem, in fact I would imagine they would have been proud of him had he done so.

If he had held his hands up a few months ago and admitted not only to himself but to a professional that he was still having urges and was requesting help to stop them then I don't know about you but I would have been had some respect for the man and would have believed he was sorry for the previous offence. Nobody can choose what urges they have unfortunatly, not even peadophiles like Gary Glitter or murderers like Fred West. They are victims themselves when they have the urges but this all changes the moment they act upon them as they make a choice to do this when they don't have to. Especially when, as in Chris Corke's case, they have already been undergoing 'treatment' and have chosen not to request more when it was needed. This shows that they are not truely sorry and a further period of reabilitation is not going to work, it only works if the offender wants it to and Chris showed that he didn't. A period of incarceration has to be the only outcome for him and it is fully deserved as the man is scum. Not for having the urges, but for the choices that he has made when he actually had options available to him and he knew it.

 

RE: Why I feel sorry for the London Tykes

He was found guilty of looking at and downloading child porn FFS, why would you let this man knock about with you? Im amazed people feel sorry for others blind stupidity.

 

see here

his post at the top doesn't show he was sorry, it shows a very clever man trying to influence peoples opinion.

http://barnsleyfc.org.uk/bbs/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=119443&mid=788365#M788365

 

Have you got kids?

Well if not stop making a fool of yourself.

This bloke is a confidence trickster of the sickest order. He seeks power and influence by manipulating people like yourself. To be honest i also got drawn in by his smooth talking and friendly ways. All this to secure a power position within his nettwork. How on earth did he become so powerfull within the old BBS nettwork? Once it came out that he was a perv i decided to cut all contact with him. I looked back at times we were together, yepp, i should have seen it.
A PERV.
Young Nudger, he's fooling you!

 

but you said that you didn't delete any posts about him

you knew nothing about any posts being deleted, it was city tyke doing it without reading the posts apparently, you werent even online, neither was cazi or farnham or the others. Now you feel like a lovely person for deleting them

 

RE: Why I feel sorry for the London Tykes

Am sorry but a bloke gets found guilty of chlld porn you just tell him to f**k off and never darken your door again not accept his lies and try to forget about it.

 

RE: Disagree YN

Good points.

We all have urges or temptation to do things that we shouldn't in life (not on the levels we're talking about here though). Be it to cheat on partners, have a few more pints, take drugs, eat an extra slice of cake etc etc.

The fact is we all choose our own paths and make choices based on our strength of character and moral values. We all make mistakes, but some mistakes are unforgivable, especially when your actions cause suffering to others.

 

Agreed bfcbub nt

 

You want sectioning for suggesting that he needs help for an uncurable 'disease' as the now pc term is for it. child abuse starts with images syuch as what CC has been caught with - again and will escalate to serious physical abuse. Only one cure.

 

Has ex City Tyke said anything on the matter yet? Not that he should like, just wondering if he still classes him as a mate now.