The fans New boo boy……….

He was very good in that season opener and seems to have done well in the other games this season.

A lot of the stick is unfair imo and he gets stick because he's not Connell and he plays a role which doesn't often allow him to stand out.

His job is the break up play and move the ball to the creative players around him which he seems to do fairly well.

Yes he is slow and that's a weakness but he offers a different dimension in the middle that other players can't.

I also think the current formation does suit him better which is why we have seen an upturn in performance. Under Duff he or Connell would be the base of the midfield with two ahead getting forward etc. That left him more exposed.

With Collins we have Kane sitting deeper alongside Russell which seems to benefit him.

 

Why boo ? It's not going to help ONE JOT! Can you imagine doing your job and keep getting booed ? It's ridiculous and they need to stop,isn't getting behind them better ? CRAZY !!!

 

I couldn't agree more. Surely we have one booer on here who can explain why they do it, even the negative posters who type about players can explain how even posting it helps as I am sure even posts on here can or could get back to the players.

Why do it? How do they think it can help?
Being paid more than the average man and being footballers in the public eye so they should expect it isn't a viable reason imo.

 

I slightly differ. One of the reasons given to justify their unrealistic salaries is that they're entertainers and should be paid accordingly.
I've never worked as an entertainer. Nobody has ever paid to watch me work so I'd be fairly teed off if someone felt they had a right to stand around and criticise what I'm doing unless they're my boss.around
Entertainers, sports people are paid because people give their money to watch them so it's only reasonable that customers should have a right to critique what they're getting for their money.
However it should absolutely be done in the right way and what some supporters think the effects of giving their own players dogs abuse week in week out can be apart from negative is beyond me.

 

I don't see how Connell coming back is the answer. He drops deep to receive the ball and likes watching it unfold in front of him. He's like a Bob Ross with a blank canvas.

Kane is a flicker and floater. Your Mcphail type.

Russell does the stuff you don't notice. So naturally when he does make an error it's highlighted.

There were three in that central midfield yesterday. Maybe Russell is only as good as the some of his parts and he started to struggle because Kane and Styles stagnated.

Just a thought.

 

Well put.
It's a disgrace and it's embarrassing.
Pathetic keyboard warriors.

 

Two great questions there....why do they do it? and how does it help?
You can bet your bottom dollar that none of those people will come on here and answert hose questions.
Why?
Because they're mindless, thoughtless idiots who don't give a flying f1ck.

 

Don’t agree with much there. Russell struggled because he, for me, is not fit enough, and far too slow - and I don’t just mean physically. He always seems to be two thoughts behind the opposition and his teammates; and very reactionary - yet unable to react quick either.

Connell plays deeper yeah, but it’s not just his ability on the ball that makes him unbelievable at this level.

His ability to close down space, be in the right place, winning back possession, yes in making tackles but also in making interceptions by knowing where the ball is going to be - none of these things are Russell attributes. Luca Connell improves any league one team and he turns us from a good team on its day to a good one every day.

With Collins apparently wanting Kane to start deeper that might if anything lessen Connell’s effectiveness - though if he’s worth his salt he’ll figure out what is required.

I’d imagine Styles will end up going, and we don’t now how Connell is health wise, but even then it is difficult to make any argument to play Jon Russell in a first choice midfield three. Still Kane left, Phillips right and Connell sitting for me - with backup coming from Benson and Wolfe if and when fit, and obviously Russell.

Jon Russell reminds me massively of Jacob Mellis. I know Mellis’ off field troubles have recently been spoken about and I’m not comparing them or making any suggestions in that regard; but the way Russell plays, looking to have as much (or maybe more) technical ability as anyone on the field yet ambling around and in actual fact ending up being ineffective both in and out of possession, often being the one losing a man out of possession, being stranded out of position and unable to recover quickly enough, or being the one losing the ball in possession.

There is a clear application issue, as his talent ought to enable better overall output. Whether that is lack of effort, lack of will - I actually doubt. I’m not sure he’s consciously lazy.

I actually think he’s probably got as far as he has in his career without having to be more tactically mindful, sharper of thought or needing to improve physically. There’s something there so hopefully all those things can be worked on, he’s not too old. He’s not close to being in my first eleven when all are available currently though.

 

I thought Russell stood out during our best period beginning of second half. Then they harassed us out of that play.
As for abuse. the Rovers subs, but particularly Sinclair suffered in the bottom corners by 2/3 loudmouths shouting at the top of their voices was appalling. (Not racist just constant foul mouth tirades) and embarrassing.

 

I was stood there myself and whilst I don’t get offended by anything even I was confused why they gave him dogs, it was inevitable he scored, I’d have given us some right pillock when he score if I would’ve been him

 

Which spell was that
I thought we was absolutely sheeite that second half

 

I think Connell and Kane are practically the same player but Kane hasn't got the drive of Connell but has more finesse.

The play-off final miss showed the difference in the two. Connell can pick a pass and bust a gut. He can even hit a 25 yard worldy but he doesn't read the game the same.

Both cracking midfielders at League 1 level in their own right.

I like Russell though. Thought he's had 2 cracking games and am happy to forgive yesterday. I wasn't there but I'm happy to take majority opinion.

 

Some good points.

We watch Barnsley not because they are a group of entertainers but they are playing a sport we love and representing our town for us because we are not good enough to do so.

A balanced critique is good helpful and everyone is entitled to do so

 

I thought for the first quarter an hr at the start of the second half mate, they were chasing shadows tbh lots of slick movements. Russel a main contributor.
Then they started to man mark and sometimes 2/3 players crowding round. Especially on Styles.
They were the better side for the majority. We gave em oceans of space by not picking up on them, like they did us.

 

Opinions and all that.

But as much as I rate Kane I don’t think he’s even in the same conversation as Connell. I might be too praising of Connell maybe, but I don’t see many better than him at what he does outside the premier league, never mind in league one. We are yet to see him at championship level I’ll grant you that. But I’ve seen Herbie Kane struggle in that league.

I also think a suggestion that Kane reads the game better than Connell outrageous! He missed a sitter yeah ok - but he was there on the end of it.

Regardless we are a much better team with both of them in it rather than just one, but if you took a poll of fans and asked which of Kane or Connell they’d rather lose if they had to, I’m not sure it’d be a close vote.

 

I agree. I think many would rather lose Kane thinking Phillips is coming back from injury. However, I feel Phillips is just a number 10. He mucks in but that's when I'm at my most nervous watching him. Can't question any of the players heart though and in my opinion is a good facet with this squad.

 

I've never booed a Reds player. It's a waste of time and completely counter productive.

But just so I know for future reference, what am I allowed to do if a player is performing poorly? Can any of the Happy Clappers let me know what's acceptable? Am I allowed to speak about it on the BBS? Or text my mate to say that someone is wnk?

Be good to know what level is acceptable.

 

The lad has hardly kicked a ball for the Reds. It’s sickening. But every club is the same.,

 

The subject is singular player abuse. Not our perfect midfield..

 

I was enjoying the gang bang .