The Grass Isn't Always Greener

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  1. pompey_red

    pompey_red Well-Known Member

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    BBS rule No1. the longer you dont play the better you become. Moncur either wasn't interested or up to championship standard for a full 90 minutes.

    He stopped playing the 2 strikers i imagine as they were both 3 foot tall.
     
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    The grass may not be greener but the bank account is certainly fatter.
     
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    It may well turn around for both of them and their career move forward again but if it doesn't, I wonder what how they'll view it when they retire. Will "I'm set up for life" outweigh "I regret I didn't play more"?

    I think it's different for most people who are simply doing a job to earn enough money to live. How many of us can genuinely say our dream job was the one we're in? I'd speculate that most professional footballers are in their dream job and if that's the case surely they actually want to play week in week out? If I was a manager there's no way I'd sign a player if I had any doubt that he was joining for the money.
     
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    Thing is you can do it for the money and enjoyment. But sitting on your arse rather than being in the first team just seems wrong to me. Like Davies, he was the man, captain, promotion winning and now what?
     
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    assist for Luton on Saturday. Still quite young too.
     
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    There's an interesting article with Lewin Nyatanga about his early retirement that explains the mentality among modern footballers.
     
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    I'm sure Davies signed thinking it was going to be a fight for the #1 jersey between him and Federici - nobody expected Jack Butland to still be there.

    At that point he's backing himself to win that fight, playing for a far bigger club, and playing for one of the promotion favourites. If he was to win that battle, he's then challenging for the #1 spot in the Wales team. Neither of those scenarios happen playing for us, as negative as that may sound.
     
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    Yeah. I can't understand what's gone wrong at Stoke. They have the money and the squad. It's one of the reasons I don't count our fixture away with them as a six pointer. I don't think we'll get anything if the proper Stoke City turn up.
     
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    When that toxic atmosphere sets in at a club it can be really hard to turn the ship. Once it's turned though it can then be successful again very quickly.

    They've done better with Michael O'Neill, but even still they haven't pulled away like I expected them to for the squad they have.
     
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    Bet Roberts went in WI cigar in mouth saying mek me for life yeah know some stuff your lot
     
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    This is a good point, but there are players who do just do it for the money. Benoit Assou-Ekotto is a good example, there's a few interviews with him where he talks about having just done it cos he was good and it paid well.

    I bet there's a significant percentage of players who are top level, but just don't care. Think of the number of people you know who don't really give a toss about one team or another.
     
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    Yeah Crouchie speaks of Ekotto in his column here......

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...dent-columnist-answer-questions.html#comments

    I suppose you don't have to like Football to like the benefits that come with your talent such as your ability.
     
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    Very probably but he's not had a sniff. Was impressed by Jack Butland's sporting knowledge though in a question of sport repeat earlier today !!

    As to Wales, if he'd have turned it on for us in the same division as Stoke of course he would be considered more highly He got on for them last season remember
     
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    But being #1 at a high flying promotion chasing Stoke vs. being #1 in a relegation threatened Barnsley? We all know how football works. He'd be getting more plaudits with good performances for them so would have had more of a chance.
     
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    Maybe, but Wales is more of a Barnsley on the world stage .
     
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    If we don't pay Championship wages we will never be a Championship club.
     
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    13 grand a week for 3 years wouldn't set ya up for life? Just over 2 million quid that is
     
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    Definitely. I think most, if not all of us would take an offer like this. The wages Sam was on and going to make his decision completely understandable too - it's life changing money.

    I'm not sure the same argument can be applied to the top players though.
     
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    yeah you couldn’t never work again but you could be moving towards it.
     
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    Or 40k a year for 50 years.
    Given most people don’t earn 40k and can buy a house etc, you could live a ‘normal’ lifestyle for rest of your life
     
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