The great Global Warming Swindle

They say the opposite of what?

 

Yep, it's a con.</p>

The UK has been both hotter and colder than it is to day during the last 20k years.</p>

It's natural climatic fluctuation. Well that's what I was taught at Uni 20 years ago and I've not seen any evidence since to change my</p>

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it's too big a problem for people to believe they can affect. Individually we can do very little, it's all those small things though added up together that can make a difference. But me going on holiday on a long haul flight for example makes no difference, even if I didn't go that plane flight would still be taking place.

 

Whilst climate change might be natural,

the amount of man made pollutants and toxins that are pumped into the air , rivers and the sea are not. Its this kind of **** we should be concentrating on eradicating.

 

Have you been down watching climate fluctaution for yourself too then?

'The UK has been both hotter and colder than it is to day during the last 20k years.' No ****! Classic!</p>

 

RE: Clean drinking water is gonna be a major issue.

Aye, tha's reight lad. There are on the net some interesting maps showing Israel's growing land boundaries in relation to water sources in land previously held by Palestinians. Hardly a co-incidence that the land they are leaving the Palestinain people is all but empty of water.

 

I will be very interested to see this programme but....

.... choose whether it is right or wrong, whether we are being fooled or not - I agree that for all our sakes we need to make greater efforts towards cleaning up our act and preserving what we have. Certainly the destruction of the rainforests for example cannot be a good thing, whether it is natural phenomenon or not.</p>

And all you need to do is nip down to any of the Dumpit sites to see all the stuff that surely has to head for landfill somewhere. And that's only one town on one day of the year. Horrendous prospects.</p>

 

So you'll know about the atlantic conveyor and how it could well close off due to global warming leading to much colder weather in the UK?

 

There is nothing Coachy doesnt know about. nt

 

That's only one theory

There is also evidence that would tend to show that a shutdown due to global warmign would actually result in warmer weather and there is also evidence to suggest that global warming will not shutdown the circulation.

Also if the theory is correct and it will result in a shutdown then it will mean that the water around the poles will be cooler which will inevitably slowdown the melting of the icecaps.

 

If enough individuals stop flying then flights get cancelled, profits go down and people get laid off.

Easy innit?

 

RE: That's only one theory

Yes the water will inevitably get cooler as an ice cap melts. But unnaturally cold water must surelyinvade south wards and make it much cooler around us. The prevailing westerlies currently pick up warmer air giving us more rain than snow. A colder sea could well make a tremendous difference to the nature of precipitation from that direction.</p>

At 50-60 degrees north, we have by far the most equitable climate of anyone on similar latitudes. But there's no doubting that could well change for the worse. I certainly wouldn't want us to provoke such a scenario.</p>

 

RE: That's only one theory

I think you missed the point of my post.

Acky said that global warming will basically cause the THC to stop which will result in colder whether, but evidence suggests that it is much more likely for it to just slow down and weaken which will cause the water around europe (and the uk) to warm up rather than cool down.

At present warm water heads from the middle of the pacific down to towards the antarctic (warming it up) then round and back up the atlantic past us (warming us up due to the warm equatorial water) and up to the arctic regions (again warming it up).

If it was to weaken or stop then the water heading to the poles would not be as warm and so the icecaps wouldn't melt as quick.

 

RE: That's only one theory

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No,I understood quite clearly what you meant. But that theory isbased on the warmer current overpowering the cold one. Given that a melting ice cap is likely to pour billions of cubic metres of freezing water southwards, I wouldn't like to wager which side wins, particularly as we are at the colder end of the area, ie - journey's start for the ice as opposed to journey's end for the warmer water.</p>

The thing is, none of us know, but a climate change lasts for several lifetimes. I wouldn't want to promote any change of events that I was unable to stop.</p>

 

RE: Not in any way religious, but...

those the lord seeks to destroy he first drives mad.


Global warming will require us to either accomodate mass migration , or leave people to their fate.

Deal with economic crises as property and assets become worthless and endure huge inequalities as the wealthy strive to survive at the expense of the have nots.

Deal with increased pollution on a mass scale as coastal refineries and power stations become submerged or relocated at vast expense, therby increasing inflation as prices rise to pay for this.

racism and particularism turn human against human in the name of self preservation.

Mass crop failure and shOrtages increasing costs (inflation again) and famine in some parts of the world (not necessarliy always in Africa).

Yes the planet has experienced, and will experience again, massive environmentla fluctuation and change due to natural factors.

However there were not 6-8 billion human beings occupying the land and contribution to the exacerbation of the problem.

But hell, as long as it is not the white guys who live in Barnsley who die...who cares? (irony)

 

the Earth has a natural cycle of warming and cooling

admitedly there were no 4x4s during the ice age put there were no 4x4s in the period before that, when the Earth was warmed. Eventually, the Earth will cool down again and there will most likely be another ice age, it's just that no-one seems to realise that records have only been kept during a period when the Earth is warming after an ice age. I'm sure it is possible that we are speeding up the process, or that the Earth might get a little hotter than usual before it cools down, but the fact is, eventually, it will, we are just nearing the end of a period of increasing temperature.

 

I think there were vineyards in yorkshire in Tudor time and ice fairs on the thames in the 18th century. Not claiming these as facts but if anyone would like to confirm or dispute.</p>

If correct it would inicate natural climate swings.</p>

 

You shoukd tell all those scientist types

Seems they've all been wasting their time

 

Ice cores mate, thats what they are looking at. Google it. nt