The Press, Lockdown and Covid

Nicola Sturgeon manages it in Scotland. Dont blame the press, it's up to the government to make the message clear.

 

The government is likely behind this. They want to lift lockdown for economic reasons but it still has public support. Lifting it now would be a PR disaster for them, particularly as they massively underestimated the virus to start with and now have to look to be erring on the side of caution and protecting the nation. So they ensure that mixed messages are disseminated with the intention of changing public opinion.

Hence all the references to "freedom" etc this week. Give people a glimpse of the light at the end of the tunnel and they start to look towards it and get used to the idea. Then you announce very limited relaxations and people are disappointed they don't get the freedoms they had expected and start clamouring for further relaxations even though they would have happily supported continuing lockdown if none of that had taken place.

 

i dont think its a clean slate, just my opinion but i dont see labour getting in at the next election,i still think the electorate they rely on wont have forgiven them over brexit,i fear this subject could well have another term to run.

When i speak about people not knowing who their mp is I do so on the back of dealing with dozens of the public day in day out in our shop.I'm very political so when election time looms i'm speaking to most folk trying to guage what their thoughts are and from my experience i can categorically say that the majority have no idea who their mp is, some are even lucky to know who the parties are,you may not believe me but that is what i see.Go and stand in a local store in the middle of a estate when an election is looming and see for yourself how many know who their mp is,i'm not making this up,i remember on the day of the 2016 referendum coming on here telling people leave was going to walk it around here,citing speaking to folk both in my store and those walking past as to why i felt this way....Still,i respect your view even if i dont agree with you.

I'm not arguing labour should have backed brexit totally but to seemingly completely ignore it when it was their core voters who backed it was the final nail in the coffin,ask caz flint and look who's in power if you feel differently.I'll say it again, the majority of voters vote for the party not the mp, they vote for labour, not steph peacock (my mp) as is the case around here.

The eu was never going to be the death of the tories as it was they who took us in and it was they who further entrenched us with treaties like maastricht,john major thought he could do as he saw fit with regards to this only for the 1997 election to prove otherwise

 

Again 2 massive points of disagreement.
Labour were in a no win situation, back Brexit and lose 66% of their voters, back leave and lose 33%, do neither and hope to lose as few as possible. As far as I’m concerned, whilst dithering lost them votes, but they could never win because the vast majority of Brexit supporters would never have voted Labour.

Brexit will be seismic and when it’s done it’s done. The electorate will want to put in a government they feel they can trust to move us forward, and IMHO are as likely to have bad feelings towards the party that sold them the moon on a stick and couldn’t deliver, as the party that were reluctant to do so.

We’ll just have to wait and see .

but whilst I’m here, I do wish that people who had no inclination to vote Labour would stop pretending they understand people who do have that inclination but chose not to in the last election. It’s silly to think that the Labour Party get successful by becoming a clone of the Tory party. Simply because they can’t understand why anyone would vote for something else.

 

whilst i'm here also, i'd like to point out that i do indeed vote labour, so just incase you were referring to me in that last sentence then think again.If you read what i've put you should understand i dont pretend to understand them,because for one i cant get my head around how so many folk are blissfully unaware about who their mp is and secondly how many have no interest in politics whatsoever but rather i'm simply showing you what i see and hear everytime theres an election, my store is fifty yards from the polling station so i really enjoy a good chinwag at election time.

not only do i vote labour i also see my labour mp several times a year,she was a remainer but seems to be of a similar opinion as myself (and caroline flint for that matter) as to why labour lost the election as dramatically as they did.

labour now have a huge mountain to climb to regain any kind of majority, we hear time and time again how can folk still vote tory, yet, time and time again they get elected,donny you have far more faith than i do in an electorate to 'move us forward'.

 

At the end of the war; the people voted for a brighter future, for tax and spend, to rebuild because they’d lost enough, can you honestly see Boris making so great a job of this that people will want more of the same?

 

i couldnt see people wanting more of the same under thatcher and major but they voted for them,again and again..

when boris first announced the lockdowns and huge swaithes of british workers got what they saw as an extended holiday when they were furloughed and the amount of folk that come in our place that jokingly (whilst being serious) say they are happy for it to go on for another ten year , then owts possible donny,i suppose after putting up with the tories for as many years as we have then i'm pessimistic when it comes to governments.

As well as the shop i also drive HGV's for a company and when 50 odd of their drivers were picked for furloughed many of them were putting photos on facebook of them being laid out in the garden half pissed on 80% of their wages,now you tell me if they think boris is a *****?

I'm on several different forum on social media, i'm on several that are all mining pages,i'm on some for hgv drivers,some for rugby supporters,some for shooting etc etc, now on the mining pages theres non what would vote tory but on the others there are plenty (not so much on the rugby one) that do and will continue to do so and you and me will never ever change them and in answer to your question then yes i can see them wanting more of the same.

 

Just think. In an alternative world, Ed Milliband is picking his cabinet after winning his second general election and the country enjoying his first five years of chaos...

 

If only he hadn't have made a funny face eating that bacon sarnie.

We wouldn't have had to endure all this *****

 

The curve is flattening. The press will continue with their morbid articles to get their advertising clicks, but ignore them.

 

Glad we rejected 5 years of chaos with Milliband.

People who voted for the tories to get brexit done are now being used as sacrificial lambs either in care homes or chucked back to work. That’s on them.