These are the options

Our CSA, Patrick Vallance, and CMO, Chris Witty, are now on record as aiming for under 8,000 deaths. That is 50x deadlier in the UK than in China.

 

I’m working from home full time now until further notice and haven’t been off our estate since Tuesday. Just taken the dog to pugneys for a quick run at lunch time thinking it would be quiet and a good place to stay away from people. Nope, it’s packed full of old folk in the cafe and walking round chatting to each other. I do despair at people.

 

I've been out to Currys today for some Printer cartridges with the kids been off I'm going to be printing worksheets ect for then from school.
And as in drove into town loads of people out and about. Really noticing the number of elderly people still going a out as normal. I think currently option 1 is just happening.

 

It's bonkers, as a family we've told my grandparents to stay indoors now and visits will be limited to when necessary. It's not pleasant for anyone but it's got to be done.

 

Between half a million and 1.8 million people will die.

That is just not something that can ever be described as the best option, for me.

 

The Chinese population have done what they're told with regards to isolation and quarantine. We seem to be proudly defiant in our flaunting of breaking these restrictions.

It's also incredibly likely that it's not over yet in China. As they are lifting restrictions, it's very likely to spread again.

There's also the fact that many don't completely trust the data coming out of China. It's possible that it's killed far more than they are reporting.

 

I would trust the numbers of positive cases more from China than the UK at the moment.

 

It's my Granddad's birthday today. He's 96. He has a serious lung condition. He and the other residents of his retirement complex are throwing a party. I really want to ask him if it's some kind of suicide pact.

 

This might be of interest to those reading the thread:

 

I arrived back from holiday at Gatwick Airport on Tuesday morning this week, and unavoidably I had to travel by train from there, via St Pancras and Sheffield. Gatwick airport was like a ghost town - apart from the passengers on our flight, and airport staff, there was hardly anyone there. Most people had masks on and many had rubber gloves. As we travelled through central London on the train, it was absolutely empty, hardly a car to be seen and just the odd person on foot, complete with face mask. St Pancras was the same, shops and bars open but empty, trains not more than 10% full. It was eerie observing it all.

I've been home since Tuesday afternoon and it couldn't be more different. The only sign that anything is unusual is the number of people clutching toilet rolls. The streets are full, people are still going in pubs and restaurants, it's as if nobody knows there's a problem. I do know people can decide for themselves, but I really think that people around here are not taking it seriously. I'm gobsmacked at how people are ignoring the advice, and how little they appear to care about their old and vulnerable loved ones.

 

It's time to get the forces out on the street for me, get people to stay inside unless there's a valid reason to be out, of which going to the pub isn't one.

 

Thanks MT

 

Option 1

Spread the virus , heal the planet , extend the human race .

Discuss .

 

A couple of points, not generally aimed at this post:

The advice on going to the pub is the same as for visiting family and friends. I've not done the former but I have done the latter, so it would be hypocritical of me to strongly criticise someone who has done the former.

I'm working from home but went for a walk earlier for some fresh air, mental health benefits, and to buy a pint of milk and the streets were empty bar virtually every 75 plus year old who lives in York.

 

what forces! We haven’t got any anymore! Successive labour and conservative governments over the last 20 odd years have seen to that! Absolutely PMSL!

 

Hi Jimmy, please post a link to these statistics you allude to.

 

Someone at work just said their partner went to a pub last night and it was heaving. She said he’s in the police and after working last 5 days he deserved a night out. So, if he gets it the police are now one short plus whoever he infects there, if he passes it onto her and we all get it the schools are all short and if she passes it on to the key workers’ kids and they pass it on at home then loads of other vital businesses are short. At least he had a pint though eh?

 

Absolute stupidity.

Then you've got that ******* knob Tim Martin saying that he thinks pubs should stay open because the transmission rate there has been very low. Dangerous advice with absolutely 0 evidence to back it up.

Then to make matters worse, Downing Street refuse to disagree with him. World's gone ******* mad. I'm sure the fact that he's a massive donor has nothing to do with it.

 

I must admit I can see the sentiment. There are people that are being forced to work in high risk places that could catch the virus at anytime. They also have to use public transport to get to work. Transport that is systematically being knocked off and forcing those people that were trying their utmost to safe-distance themselves together.

Is it any wonder that people will think f cuk it and go to the pub? (Where less people seem to be congregating now by the way).