Put them all up in hotels surrounded by G4S security workers, obviously. Or buy a death trap of a boat to keep them in, tethered off shore. Oh no wait, that would be silly. Not sure who would think of such ridiculous solutions to problems…
There's a number 4. Rehabilitation. It serves nobody to put people in prison for however long, only for them to come out and commit the same or worse crimes. This applies particularly to "minor" crimes, it's well known that many people who serve time for such offences come out to commit worse.
It doesn't help that the party who've been in power for 14 years have allowed the number of people in prison to rise to an all time high without increasing capacity to match. It doesn't help that in 2015 the Tories promised 10,000 new prison cells by 2020 yet delivered only 2% of that figure. Yes 2% It doesn't help that due to the policies of the last 14 years the mental heath of such a large proportion of the population has deteriorated so badly that the number of people taking drugs and ending up in prison as a result has sky rocketed. It doesn't help that due to the policies of the last 14 years there are many people who have turned to crime to keep a roof over their heads. It doesn't help that due to the policies of the last 14 years so many people feel forgotten, unvalued and with no opportunities that they've chosen a life of crime. It doesn't help that the party who have been in power for 14 years have cut thousands of prison officers meaning that more crime is committed IN prison which results in extra time served for prisoners when caught. It doesn't help that this is just one of the many things that the Tories have ****** up for over a decade but you keep trying to blame the people who have been left to clean up the mess.
Not when the prisons are run for profit there isn't. The drive for bigger and bigger profit means staffing levels are kept low and consequently things like rehabilitation take a back seat.
Perhaps the reoffending rates are high because we are unable to fund proper rehabilitation both inside prison and upon release.
I've got a solution to rising prisoner levels. We could rent a f***ing great big barge. I mean it's been proven to be a far better solution than actually tackling core issues.
Should send them to Shawshank. Warden Norton would sort them out. Actually, Norton's taxes are probably more up to date than Sunak and his wife.
I get the prisons and many other things have been underfunded but now we're blaming the Tories for people taking drugs and people stealing...
You don't think there's a link to a proven decline in mental health and an increase in drug use? Or an increase in people living in poverty and an increase in crime?
Official government statistics do support a reduction in drug use, since 1995. But if you can't afford to feed yourself you're probably not going to be able to afford drugs. Unless of course you steal things to either sell and pay for drugs, or steal food so you can afford drugs.
Sad to now see security tags on joints of meat and baby milk because people are having to steal to feed their family.
Well yeah, when you make life less affordable for people on low wages and don't fund prisons to rehabilitate prisoners then crime is going to rise.
You understand that this plan is the one the tories set out because they have screwed up the prison system. Labour are not changing it.
You don't think people are a product of their environment? Granted, genetics will give you a certain baseline, but that changes over time due to the influence of surroundings, associations and the overall level of nourishment in the environment. For the last 14 years, that's been pretty crap.
Tbf, the thieves are usually taking these straight down the pub or local rendezvous of choice and selling for a tenner, the price of their next fix. It's the desperate purchaser who is feeding their family at a discounted rate, no questions asked.
Without jumping on the bandwagon. You say prisoners should serve a full sentence. Most imo would not disagree. I'm of the opinion a sentence is exactly what it should be set as, not a day later or sooner. Not time off for good behaviour, (1yr 50% reduction for good behaviour. So 6 months) for me it should be time added on for bad behaviour. (6 months with time added on) We have a system of precedence in law, it's outdated in the sense sometimes a case differs from another. But the offence is generally the same. Your argument says in effect people should serve a full term. I actually agree but given my reasons above. In the way the system is worked now if you got your way. We would be way beyond breaking point that we are at now. Probably 50% above capacity. Prisons being built would be the only answer to your point..Would take years, not overnight. And much more of a drain on the public purse. I dont think for one minute, the persistent criminals or serious offenders will be the first to benefit from the new proposals. None violent crimes like fraud would take precedence. Serving 4 months instead of 5 on a 10 month sentence will not make much difference, as serving any amount of time is sometimes enough for not to re-offend. There is a person mentioned all the time (on the Barnsley community thefts etc crime site facebook group), along with his mate . A 1/2 man crime wave For theft and scamming old folk. Police are at a loss. He (the main culprit) keeps getting arrested. Then released by the courts as basically there is no room at the inn so to speak.
The Tory psychodrama is directly responsible for the neglected state of the prisons. Rory Stewart was well on the way to becoming the best prisons minister we ever had until Boris took over and signaled that those opposing his views (especially on brexit) would no longer be welcome in government and/or the Tory Party. Furthermore, the running down of the prisons, like so many other of our public services was largely brought about by austerity.
To a certain extent your right. And people are right about prisons been underfunded. But I never bought into the one of blaming the goverment for everything. Some of my best mates grew up with **** all literally. 2 of my closest growing up never went down the getting into drugs route when they could have and blamed been poor and the government etc. Although I knew others who had a better up bringing and went down that route. Alot of the time you have to take responsibility for you.
