This budget supermarket in Goldthorpe

The working poor get nothing at all, there is very little incentive for hard working people who don't earn a lot of money to get out of bed and go out to earn a living and contribute.

There is an assumption that if you earn a wage you must have a big disposable income when the reality is very different.

We do make life too easy for the work shy lazy spongers and the professionally ill and that is why a lot of what the government is doing to welfare is a step in the right direction.

 

There's also an assumption that everyone on benefits is a work shy lazy sponger. I suspect that's not the case.

 

Again factually most of the benefits bill for people of working age goes to the in work but poorly paid. It's a fallacy to think that it goes on either the unemployed or people claiming disability benefits.

 

I don't make that assumption despite the image I seem to give off on here. I think we need a good, robust benefits system to protect the needy and vulnerable but at the same time we have to ensure it isn't abused by people who just want to use it as a life-style.

 

He's created loads of jobs for bar staff

 

Despite the reforms I think the benefits system and National Insurance/ NHS will be bankrupt within the next 50 years anyway, it's unsustainable.

We need to adopt a health system like France and Germany which works much better than the NHS, which bizarrely, the worse it's got the more popular it's got, even though most East European countries have better cancer survival rates than us.

 

Divide and rule.


Always worked and always will because there's a whole bunch of idiots who more interested in what some poor ****er gets for nothing whilst happily ignoring the fact that the real criminals are living the dream out of sight somewhere.

Get a grip people, you're being screwed over and taking aim at the wrong people.

 

Problem is you go back to work and you end up earning less than you would if you were on benefits because there's no gradual tapering of the system to support people who do find work. Who can blame people for maximizing their income? Not me.

 

Re: Instead of picking faults with a genuine attempt to help the needy

Really ? Okay then, it must never happen.

http://www.itv.com/news/london/upda...f-stunned-as-businessmen-run-up-130-000-bill/

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/the-businessman-who-ran-up-203-752576

 

Re: Instead of picking faults with a genuine attempt to help the needy

But many people are suffering in these times of austerity.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ll-says-princess-michael-of-kent-8993437.html

 

Re: Instead of picking faults with a genuine attempt to help the needy

pmsl. It's all relative I suppose.

 

Re: Instead of picking faults with a genuine attempt to help the needy

Her last quote was very Brass Eye.

 

No you're not alone. It's a British disease. Rather than see what we can do as a society to improve the lives of other people, we constantly look for reasons to drag everyone down to the same level, which preferably is as low as possible. I don't think some will be happy until we have shanty towns and people starving, just to prove they are actually poor and not spending it all on alcohol, drugs and X-Boxes.

Okay, some people take the piss with the system, but being jealous of people on benefits? Has it really come to that?

Meanwhile, the people pulling the strings are sitting on their huge piles of cash and laughing their arses off at the proletariat who'd rather push each other's faces further into the dirt than join together and lift themselves out of it.

 

The concept is fine. Sure, it could be abused but this may help people in genuine need.

The problem with extending this out to "low income" people is that you can't really prove their salary level. The checkout probably isn't the best place for a credit reference bureaux check.

 

There is as much chance of checking legitimate low income wage levels as there is that of benefits and this would need to be done prior to membership acceptance which is well before checkout. (Illicit pay if that is what you were implying could apply to both groups). I think that there is enough data to show that the low income working families are poorer than some of their benefit counterparts and this is plainly wrong.

 

Its not the benefits, its the fecking self employed and their "tax back" putting every receipt possible through the books and claiming they only earn 10k for their working families so they get an extra £400 a month. Dodgy accountants prepared to hide figures for them.

 

Re: Instead of picking faults with a genuine attempt to help the needy

He paid for it with a debit card the idiot. Should have used a credit card and got some nectar points.

 

^^^This^^^