This is truly embarrassing...

Can I ask (and do feel free not to respond, I don't want you being shot down or people piling on)... what made you vote for him/ them? And if there was a GE tomorrow, would you vote the same way or do something different?

As I say, don't feel like you have to answer, I'm just interested in the reasoning.

 

Its only a matter of time. The "red wall tories" are in fairly open rebellion. The old guard are extremely miffed at the sacrifice of their publicly paid gravy trains, the media has definitely turned, even in parts of the spectator and Torygraph. And the more neutral journalists are taking pot shots galore.

Today, after the "speech" one journalist summarised the car crash he'd just gone through and was asked, "frankly PM, is everything ok?"

Thats about as passively wounding a thing as you can say. That DePfeffel then said he thought the speech had gone really well, that probably only magnified the shambles of a person holding the title of PM.

 

Labour offering more uncertainty about leaving the EU. I was sick of hearing about it. Labour were offering the possibility of another referendum. I didn't agree with that. Conservatives said we're out. Hence I voted for them. In hindsight I should have abstained from both votes. As Brexit has turned out to be a disaster too.

 

And if there was a GE tomorrow?

 

I'd vote Labour. Conservatives did what they set out to do. They've outstayed their welcome.

 

I listened to Starmers speech at the CBI. Compared to DePfeffel, it was more sensible, more reasoned and most definitely something better aimed at a conference of business leaders. I suspect we'll start to see more and more teased and positioned policy wise towards a GE. I can't say I'm a fan, and the notion of "making brexit work" just doesn't make sense. But they obviously have to nod towards the leave vote without completely alienating the remain vote, something I'm still not sure is possible.

If a GE was called tomorrow, given the constituency I'm in has a massive Labour majority, I'd probably vote green with an outside chance of lib dem. But if it were closer, I'd vote whichever way assisted in making sure the seat didn't turn conservative.

 

I do not do politics but love Peppa Pig

 

Prefer Chuggington.

 

"has turned out to be a disaster" suggests there was a time when it looked like it would go well!!

If only there'd been some kind of warning sign.....

 

Do you honestly think Labour would be any better ?

 

Not in the same way David Cameron did though, I hope

 

Yes. A lot better.

 

It would take some effort for it to be worse.

 

Wouldn't you have just loved it if when he asked the audience if anybody had been to Peppa pig world, one of them stood up and said "no, but I did once throw a Peppa pig soft toy at a fickle, disingenuous footballer"

 

The problem is, this was so f*&King obvious in 2019 before the general election. The media fawning over badly mangled, poorly learnt speeches in Ancient Greek as some kind of intellect and ignoring the lies on lies on lies that follow him like flies around the **** that he is.

 

Christ Almighty. It's like watching Biden. What a mess.

 

Will they though? I must have inadvertently hidden all these BBS Tory posters from view because I don't see any.

 

I think he's got other things on his mind - skeletons in cupboards - now due to come out following the sleazegate fiasco.

 

Yes, Ms. Arcuri is about to put him out of his misery, it seems.

 

Definitely but imo they are all as bad as each other.