To all the anti vax, anti lockdown, anti mandatory passes, Covid protesters and rioters..

I'm not debating the fact that a nurse might be 'better qualified' to assess the validity of a medical study... I'm merely stating that in another thread nurse Magee condescendingly implied that I had no place commenting about a medical study because I was not a qualified doctor. Now, as worthwhile a profession being a nurse is, I would still put it down the pecking order from being a doctor and suggest that, by his own criteria, nurse Magee isn't suitably qualified either.

 

I would argue that a staff nurse is more qualified to interpret studies than a house officer or SHO, I'd also argue that senior nurses (such as sisters and matrons) are more qualified than registrars and most GPs...

 

I'd trust a nurse over a conspiracy theorist any day of the week. In fact I wouldn't trust a single thing that you type on here without independent verification. And I do mean anything you type.

 

You said you weren't a medical professional, Im not sure why you have a bee in your bonnet about this. Never mentioned that you weren't a doctor and only doctors could look at it so not sure why you're obsessed with repeating that, but a pattern is emerging here.

I am a medical professional. My dissertation was a literature review of medical papers, I have to read medical research to keep up with my CPD and revalidation, go and have a read of the NMC code if you don't believe me.

Vaccines aren't my field at all but I understand how medical papers work and how credible they are. The paper you posted isn't even peer reviewed and that further proves my point that you are out of your depth with it, that is a fact it isn't me trying to patronise you. Just because a paper is published on the internet somewhere it doesn't make it real or accurate, so how are you qualified to make that call if you don't understand the subject matter???

I might be able to read a report about car engines but it doesn't make me qualified to critically appraise it and base my argument on it does it? So who's being condescending, the guy belittling a nurse not being a proper enough medical professional for you or the guy calling out someone who thinks that interpreting something in a totally unrelated field to what they are qualified in (why don't you tell us what you do for a living while we're at it) makes them think they have any credible opinion about that subject? I wouldn't dream of doing that to another profession such as criticising someone's building regs drawings or accounting, but that's the era we live in. Armchair experts in stuff they don't understand, then going onto social media, influencing others and potentially killing people due to it. That isn't an exaggeration- how many reports have we seen of vocal covid deniers dying of covid? They will have no doubt been influenced by someone such as yourself.

If you're young and in your mid 20s you won't have been around to remember Andrew Wakefield and the autism/ MMR scandal and how that had a massive impact. Go and read about it. We have been here before and I worry that the likes of you posting stuff like this causes a great deal of harm.

I've said my piece on all this now, so you can either take it or leave it. I suggest you put your energies into things that are more important to you right now instead of trying to intentionally wind others up on a forum full of strangers.

 

Good old Dr John Campbell is a nurse. He uses Dr because he has a PhD but it isn't in medicine.

 

Unless you're an F1 working with an experienced ward sister!

 

No... I said I wasn't a doctor (see attached)

I am not in my mid twenties. My girlfriend is. I have a son with autism so you don't need to tell me about that, although perhaps not being a nurse means I can't comment on that either. Since you have brought it up... perhaps you could give your medical opinion on why autism in boys has increased exponentially since 2000.

I would suggest that there have been fewer covid deniers dying of covid than there are vaccine injury deniers dying from the vaccine. Those figures aren't readily available though so your guess is good as mine. What isn't debatable is that there have been more deaths caused by the covid 'vaccines' in the last 8 months than there have been from all other vaccines combined over the past 30 years. There have been over 1,500 covid vaccine related deaths in the UK alone per the MHRA Yellow Card Reporting Scheme and many deaths such as those of my girlfriend's parents aren't reported as vaccine related so it is my belief that the figure is many times higher. Sadly, I think it will take many more out of the blue blood clot related deaths before people wake up to the possibility that these rushed experimental MRNA vaccines aren't as safe as we are lead to believe. As someone who assesses medical reports I presume you are fully aware that all previous attempts to launch MRNA vaccines have not progressed beyond animal testing due to cytokine storm issues that lead to the animals dying when they were re-exposed to the virus?

 

I refer you to my last paragraph. I'm not doing this with you. I have better things to do with my time. You have too, clearly.

 

I would also point out that there have been many studies that have found causal links between autism and vaccines due to the inclusion of metals, particularly aluminium, that cross the blood/ brain barrier. The CDC has very recently had to remove from its website a statement that vaccines do not cause autism following a legal challenge. Unfortunately, the large pharmaceutical companies have sufficient financial clout to suppress the publication of any studies which might prove detrimental to their profitability

 

I'm not here on any kind of wind up mission. I'm simply engaging in a discussion on a thread started by another poster that I happen to have strong personal views on. I am more than happy for you to disengage from this conversation. Please don't let me keep you from whatever better things you have to do.

 

Doesn't come across that way:






I don't see the point in debating with you. You make statements like the above regarding vaccines and you just expect people to blindly believe you without any evidence offered whatsoever. When you have tried, the last two things you've posted have been proven to either be very questionable or totally untrue. Ask yourself what you'd be thinking about someone's credibility if you were reading that?

You are clearly and understandably upset about a couple of issues (as I would be) and are looking for reasons to explain them, but the problem is when you're viewing things from that perspective you go looking for it and your confirmation bias skews any lack of objectivity.

I hope your girlfriend is ok and you are managing ok, but I won't be interacting with you any further.

 

That suits me. I could happily provide you with links to countless cardiologists, immunologists, virologists, GPs, medical researchers and nurses who are voicing serious concerns about the adverse effects of the vaccines but I accept that this would be futile. If their medical opinion differs from yours you would simply dismiss them as being invalid.

As a working nurse though I would suggest that you speak to the nurses working in the cardio department of your hospital or to the paramedics or coroners and ask them if they have observed a significant increase in blood clot related deaths in recent months. The staff nurse on the ward indicated to my girlfriend's brother that there had been 7 similar deaths on the ward over the weekend that her mum died. The coroner also told my girlfriend that he is dealing with significantly more heart attack deaths amongst younger age groups over recent months and nearly all bodies have Warfarin (blood thinner right?) present. I don't have video evidence of these conversations but I have no reason whatsoever to believe my girlfriend is lying to me.

 

If you dont provide the evidence what do you expect us to do, just believe you blindly?

This proves absolutely nothing.

 

I don't expect you to do anything Yoyo. I'm simply chewing the fat on a message board and passing on some anecdotes to nurse Magee. Like me, you are free to believe whatever you like.

 

Apologies @Jay I read this late at night and just remembered I never replied. I have a 9 and 11 year old (nearly 10 and 12 now) both with Autism.
The last year or so has been the hardest we have had to endure.
That's a lovely offer and I will keep it in mind. Convincing my eldest to leave the house in Winter is a real challenge!

 

Why not provide the evidence so we can review it and consider whether it is credible?

 

I expect it's largely due to better understanding, identification and diagnosis. I'm confident that if I, my dad or likely my father in law were a child now we'd have a good chance of being diagnosed as being on the autistic spectrum somewhere.

Or maybe it's organic food that's the cause?

 

See also:

 

There is one for starters

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22099159/