To all those who didn't vote BNP.

Bravo!

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Also it's erroneous to assume they're spending their wages here.</p>

 

RE: Bravo!

they dont have to be spending their wages here, for our economy to benefit.
We get our plumbing etc done cheap and British industry profits.
But I agree its sad we have to use such arguments.

 

RE: Over the past few years...

We've only benefited as much as we benefit from any particular sector of the economy. You could argue that we are all richer because of Tesco or binmen etc. </p>

The over simplification of this argument by the BNP and by the Govt has made it seem like either we can't have an economy without cheap labour or there's only unemployment amongst Brits because of cheap labour.
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I tend to agree

I was making the point, its not as simple as immigrants have been a drain on the country.
I accepted they had been a drain on many of our resources and a benefit in other ways. Determining the balance is of course complex, and one that our main political parties have kept away from.

 

Absolutely.

For the Govt, especially this one, to examine this issue more thoroughly would be politically unacceptable as it might lead them to the conclusion that certain parts of the welfare system make it expedient for certain individuals to not accept work because they can make a living so to speak on certain benefits. Not all on the dole, incapacity etc are scrounging, but some imho certainly know how to milk the system, whilst others find themselves 'trapped' on benefits - why work when you can get paid for not doing so ?
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It's convenient for a Labour Govt to gloss over this whilst ever there's a willing supply of immigrants to do these jobs as addressing it would bring certain over reaction from their traditional supporters as it'd be portrayed as an assault on all those on benefits.</p>

The recent economic troubles though are bringing such issues to the fore as diminishing tax revenues allied to a heavy public spending budget mean this can not go on. Labour are limping along hoping that the Tories will have to sort the mess later which will please the Daily Mirror etc as it plays to the traditional theme - Tory cuts. Labour voters on here by and large will swallow the story hook line and sinker.
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Sounds very nice but that's not how it works.

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And the assumption that there's a net profit from all immigration is way out.</p>

 

But those on here will spend all their time arguing about

the pros and cons of immigrationcompletely missing the root causes. Think this thread proves that really.

 

Not my area mate,

But my mates in the business school all assure me, that there is a net profit from immigration.

But then as it happens none of them are British. But I am sure that does not effect their view.