Interesting. Supertyke may have been persistent, but he's been nowhere near "libellous" and raises some fair and genuine concerns about products that most fans - including those outside BFC - will rely on for info. Maybe Rob's offer should be taken up? If people have got time to analyse every detail and then post on here what's wrong with it, maybe they also have time to help correct/proof read before it goes live or goes to print? Win/win situation if you ask me.
I'm not sure what Supertyke could add in person that he hasn't already said. That's if he even wanted Rob Knowles to come to his house.
My office is always open for those people who wish to help............. lets all go down tommorrow for a brew and a chat ! milk no sugar please rob lad !
I think Rob want him to go to Oakwell and be intimidated but if he really wants to be helped he could always take on the suggestions from here evrey week, instead of constantly getting it wrong, just my opinion like. edited to add I thought that he didnt read this BBS?
As much as i've lamented supertykes one man crusade against the club and his lack of bollcoks to visit Rob at work in the past I do feel that on this occassion I have to support what he says. Although, Supertykes quest has been picking up on slight spelling mistakes and grammar issues( which do happen in most daily's BTW) with Rob knowles the fact is Davey's been gone a fortnight. The person responsible for editing the programmefor yesterdays game has to be held accountable.
You do have some good ideas . . . But you do come across as though you nit pick and moan at everything the club & Rob does. The amount of constructive critiscm is lost in the amount of petty stuff you post about. Take him up on his offer, put forward your ideas personally and see what happens. What's the worst that can happen?
So bad grammar and spelling are acceptable now then?</p> Not in my book. One of the reasons I don't buy papers any more is because they're so badly written - it's lazy and sloppy and shows that the journalists writing them are either unprofessional or badly educated. </p>
Ah, the good old Grauniad! It almost looks professional these days, now everybody else has caught up/down to its standards!
libellous A word banded about by a lot of folk down at Oakwell. They don't know the meaning of the word. Tiresome as it may be, since when has correctly pointing out spelling errors been libellous?
Surely a journalist of all people should be able to ascertain what's likely to be libellous and what isn't? Or have they replaced the law classes with clunge studies?
exactly mark I have reasons for not wanting to go down there and see him face to face and to rob knows that. I also agree with your comment about intimidation techniques. For what it is worth the reasons I don't want to (some of them anyway) are... Rob has seen the suggestions I have made in the past and I do not see what difference it makes whether he sees them in here, in braille, over the phone, face to face or written across the chuffing sky in stars. They are the same suggestions, if he chooses to adopt them then great, if he doesn't then fine but me saying it face to face will make absolutely no difference to that at all as the suggestions HAVE been seen. There are a lot of people with the same concerns that I have as we all know. Dreamboy picks up on a lot of mistakes, windy did, neutrino as well and then there are all the others that I have missed, someone even made a 'rob knowles is gay' style website. I feel that seen as these concerns are shared by a lot of people then it is totally wrong to single one person out and ask them to come down for a meeting. Why not invite EVERYONE that has aired their concerns down? Surely they all deserve the same. I see no benefit or reason to address the concerns of one in private which will still leave a lot more not knowing. And no if anyone is thinking that this is a new theory of mine just to support not going down then it isn't, people had concerns and questions over AFC barnsley quite a few years ago now and someone from AFC offered to tell me the answers to those in a pm/email. I refused and argue that there shouldnt be a case of telling a select few when a lot wanted to know. Pretty much the same as with the supporters trust meeting recently. I do not see the point in going to all the time and effort of driving in to barnsley just to go to see someone who already knows my concerns and suggestions. A pointless exercise completely for me to walk in and go' you know those suggestions that you read on the BBS? well theyre the suggestions that i've got'. I couldn't really add anything to that other than 'don't take it as anything personal rob, i would have the same concerns about basic mistakes regardless of who's name was under them if they were a journalist'. Quite frankly I don't have the time. History has taught me things about certain individuals and I will not go into that because then it would be libellous (or could be considered so) though I am not saying who the victim would be. Intimidation techniques? No ta.
To be perfectly honest with you gaz I don't have the time or the ability to proof read something for anyone. My english is nowhere near perfect so I wouldn't notice the majority of errors with grammar or even spelling so i could check it and then someone like you could still find a lot when reading the site or programme. It might seem like I have time to analyse every detail but I don't. I only noticed those in yesterdays programme because one was on the back page (where I was looking to see the squad numbers of players) and the other was written in big letters across the width of a page so I saw it while flicking through the programme. I don't even read the whole programme when I buy it, probably less than 5 pages so it could be littered with mistakes on the rest and I wouldnt see them. Same goes for the site I guess, I only ever read stories on there that are linked to from here if they sound interesting or if i'm looking for something specific on the site which is very rare so I would say I spend less than half an our a week looking at the two of them combined, probably less than 15 minutes actually which is why I spot far less mistakes than other people do, their posts just dont seem to get the same attention. Basically Gaz I think that if someone on here is able then they should volunteer to be a proof reader but as for me personally, well i'd be crap at it.
But you'd go with other people? I can't help but think some of the constant negativity towards the club might be negated if some of the people involved met face to face to air their views in an adult manner. We've got a new manager, a new era, it'd be great if we as a BBS could be more supportive of the club, perhaps get involved in a postitve way. Why not work together to take the club forward rather than use any minor problem as a stick to beat the club with. Rob makes a comment about his office being open etc. I've always found the club staff to be willing to listen to suggestions. Cue Hartog "Gay" comment.
Spelling nit picking aside, will the editor of saturdays programme be held resonsible for the errors made?? Doubt it...