Tony Stewart

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  1. Jimmy viz

    Jimmy viz Well-Known Member

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    Donny's have actually decreased. Rotherham have had back to back promotions after seasons without a stadium at all of course they have gone up.

    If you analyse all the clubs that gave new grounds there is usually a short term spike that unless it is linked to on field success equalises itself back to historically norms within 3 years.

    Where would we find the 10 million plus we needed to fund a new stadium?
     
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    The only thing that is required is winning football games and good negotiation skills in the transfer market. The rest will follow.
     
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    Even if that were true which I am unclear on either way (I know it was still enforceable at the time of our administration) land in that part of tine not particularly valuable land in Dodworth as in your example is probably more.
     
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    Clubs never go out of business, not at our kind of level.

    I wish they would, but they don't.

    They plead poverty, beg working-class people to fill buckets with money, pay off 1p in the pound, say they've learned their lesson, and then do it again.

    HMRC really went for Portsmouth. If they can survive, anyone can survive.

    If clubs aren't ceasing to exist now, in less-than-optimal global financial conditions, being chased by an aggressive taxman, they will probably always pull through.

    I really want to be wrong.
     
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    I think the level of debts that so e clubs are racking up that go into the 100s of millions will be a game changer in terms of them going out of business. Also some of the rich foreign owners will get a new interest and want their cash back and they're hard nosed businessmen who will think nowt about liquidising their assets.
     
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    I hope you're right!
     
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    I have it on good authority that Tony Stewart had mortgaged and borrowed on everything he had,plus a hidden loan from Rotherham Council,
    and staked it on a business plan that depended on promotion to League 1,had that failed it would have been curtains,fortunately it paid off,but it was a real risk that could have gone t**s up.
     
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    I think Oakwell is a great ground - modest but capable of generating amazing atmosphere - these new grounds, Wembley, Ricoh Arena and the like, full of amenities, short on atmosphere.

    Can never understand the money that was spent on Wembley when the Millenium Stadium is miles better and cost 3 x less.

    We don't have problems there - we need entertaining football on the pitch and some bigger crowds leaving happy.
     
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    Tony Stewart has received plenty of criticism these past few years. Moving the club out of Rotherham, for example. Allowing Mark Robins and his coaching staff to join Barnsley. Sacking Ronnie Moore when still in with a great chance of promotion, which then faded away. Replacing him with Andy Scott. Delays in the new ground being built and returning to the town. Appointing Evans after his much publicised problems both at Boston United & Crawley.
    Mr Stewart has received criticism from the fans of his own club, just like Mr Cryne.
     
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    Tony Stewart has achieved far more than Patrick Cryne in far less time.
     
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    JLWBigLil Well-Known Member

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    I'm simply pointing out Mr Stewart has also received his fair share of criticism from some Rotherham fans for not doing things either in the manner, or the timing they demanded. Comments like "Why is Stewart above criticism?", "He doesn't know how to run a football club", "He's not a football man", "He's not got the club's best interests at heart", were commonplace.
    The success in getting the ground built & overseeing two successive promotions won't eradicate this from history, irrespective how inconvenient it might be.
     
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    I see what's happening here. Dawson moves on, someone else needs to move in
     
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    You mean an owner who doesn't share football club assets with the local council?
     

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