Tories to scrap grammer schools

Would have been later I think

Think he is same age (or a year either side) of me, as I remember that speech to the Tory conference.
So I guess if he went there at 13 that would make it between 1974-76

 

RE: I lived in Cambridge from 1978 to 1983

So the same as any University town in Britain then - students act like ***** and the locals hate them.

 

RE: I lived in Cambridge from 1978 to 1983

Did you have a stripey blazer, straw boater and did you used to go punting down the river ?</p>

As opposed to the punting when the 20/20 cricket's on.</p>

 

They are set a target of 75% from state schools.

I think they are round about 55% at the moment. Not enough gay kids in state schools is the big problem for Cambridge recruiters by all accounts.

 

Leicester Poly, mid 80's

Plenty of public school thickos whose parents knew how to play the system with regards to grants etc. And you wouldn't call that place particularly priveleged.

 

RE: Inverted snobbery

I believe that there is a general perception (rightly or wrongly) that a public school education is somewhat of a 'shoe in' to Oxbridge, which unfortunately, a 50/50 split does nothing to dispel.</p>

My daughter informed me that undergraduates are not allowed to have jobs during term time. Do you know whether this is correct ?</p>

 

William Jefferson Hague (born March 26, 1961)

which means he would have gone to wath in 72/73. Holgate went comp 73/74 (I was just starting 4th year)so if wath was the same he'd be the last year of grammar school intake.</p>

Jefferson ? good old Barnsley name !!!! Oh aye !!!!
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RE: Would have been later I think

http://www.conservatives.com/tile.do?def=people.person.page&amp;PersonID=4680</p>

Did I just post a tory link... (puke) </p>

near enough dude,Wath was a comp when he attended.</p>

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RE: Inverted snobbery

Yeah, that rule is true. But it would be suicide to try and work in term time - i guarantee that during the term she'll be doing 50+ hours Academic work per week.

Don't forget though that each term is only 8 weeks long and there's only three terms a year, so there's loads of time to make money in the holidays (i came home and worked in a sports shop for spends)

 

RE: Inverted snobbery

fair enough, but I'm inclined to think that having the assistance of wealthy parents would be an advantage (well in fairness in probably is in most areas of life) and it may put off potential students who would like to supplement their income with a 'bar job' or the like.</p>

My daughter islikely toread history and is considering York along with others. Taking AS level at the moment.</p>

 

RE: Inverted snobbery

Fair enough, but i think with the introduction of tuition fees (by a Labour government, would you credit it??) then its true of most Universities, that having rich parents helps.

Your daughter is obviously capable and i would recommend her to go for it. It is a totally different experience and i'd never hesitate to recommend it to anyone - although i think the quid pro qou is that you have to work a lot harder to stay afloat than you would elsewhere. The short terms do give big opportunities to work and earn cash in the holidays.

I think you'd also be surprised that applying from a state school background may help rather than hinder in a positive discrimnation type way (although she needs to be careful when choosing which college, as you apply to the college not the Uni. as a whole)

 

RE: William Jefferson Hague (born March 26, 1961)

I was born August 1962, he'd have been the year above me (had he been at same school), I moved to the high school at age 13 in 1975, which means he would have moved up in 1974.

 

RE: They are set a target of 75% from state schools.

Even if the split was 50/50 which I doubt, it would still represent a huge bias toward the upper class..... I'm sure I don't have to work out the math for you. It’s true that the Russell Group of Uni's are trying to "attract" more working class kids (as if they need attracting) but some might say they are giving lip service to this widening participation agenda..... to say there isn't a problem is bizarre, these places are still rife with ideas of class and that they are there to train the next generation of civic and business leaders...

For me, Scrap public schools and invest in a fully funded comprehensive system.

 

RE: Inverted snobbery

I'm currently in my 3rd year at Oxford having gone to Wath Comp. I'd recommend your daughter applies, I've loved it here. Im at one of the smaller colleges which is about 55% state school. Don't be put off by illusions of posh ***** who are there on Daddy's money. While there are some people like this, they are vastly outnumbered by normal people. While there is a lot of work, its not an insane amount (until this period just before finals, which is 14 hour days at the minute). Oxford is a really nice place, especially in the summer, and the education you receive is second to none.

 

High school starts at 11 not 13 nt

 

Unless they have some kind of gay middle school arrangement

For the gays, like.

 

Slow pedants must be kept back a couple of years

And gays.

 

50/50 State schools versus public schools...

And that correlates to the 50/50 split across the whole population of those who go to state schools and those who go to public schools, right?

Oh, hang on, that's not right, surely?

 

RE: 50/50 State schools versus public schools...

It correlates roughly to the percentage from each sector who apply there.

Which to me indicates its a self fulfilling prophecy - peoples perception is that theres no point in applying if you're from a state school and consequently proportionately more privately educated kids get in.

Anyway, i can't be arsed anymore. Typical Barnsley mentality - the mesters at the big house are keeping us downtrodden. Self fulfilling prophecy.

 

Just one thing:

Is it a self fulfilling prophecy?