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A see it's exactly the same people in that thread as it is in this one, the cabal of left-wing activists who hold a disproportionate hold over this forum.

Muslims will become the majority of the population in the UK between 2050 and 2100 and that's pretty much recognised by everyone.

If Scotland leaves the union then it will be sooner rather than later.

 

Sigh

 

Enjoy...

http://blogs.channel4.com/factcheck/factcheck-will-britain-have-a-muslim-majority-by-2050/13690

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2011/feb/11/islam-population

I do keep expecting to see you walking the streets with a placard round your neck that says the foreigners are coming...

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Thing is the thread as a debate is a waste of time. As soon as a skin colour is mentioned or the "r" word it sets off discussions in all sorts of directions.

Imo the following are observations.

Some blacks commit crime
Some whites commit crime
Some asians commit crime
Etc
Etc

What can't be ignored is the population. Worldwide and also on this tiny island.

If we are to be self sustaining and not rely on imports (gas electric food etc) we can't continue with an open door policy which allows anyone and everyone from the eu just to waltz in if they feel like it.

We have to have some control over our borders otherwise the future will be bleak.
If the only way to do that is to remove ourselves from the eu then so be it.

What is clear we can't continue the staus quo. And I don't trust any political party to do whats right for the country (whatever that may be) without putting their selfish own interests first.

 

The problem with that approach from an economic perspective is that being in the EU adds significant economic value to the country. That's not a party political thing employers organisations such as the CBI back the independent evidence for this. All independent evidence about immigrants again show they add value to the economy.

There is of course discussion to be had about people's concerns about the social impact of immigration but that's an entirely different issue.

Economically it makes no sense to distance yourself from your largest trading partner you will clearly make your country poorer. Whether it's worth it to mitigate social issues is a different discussion.



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Who do you agree with then? The EDL, UKIP, the BNP?

All these things you are watching on the video are under a right wing Conservative government, albeit one propped up by the Lib Dems.
The cuts to policing, social services, health service, loss of sports fields & community centres are all a result of coalition policies.

I think most parties at the next election will be speaking about limiting immigration, but it is blatantly obvious from the film that poverty, lack of investment in former industrial areas & intolerance are the main problems.

I'm glad that there are plenty of people on this forum that are prepared to say your views are misguided (at best) and verging on racist at times. As long as you speak up I will too.

 

" cabal of left wing activists" - hilarious!

 

Last time I voted I scribbled none of the above on my paper that's how active I am.


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I don't doubt immigrants add value in some respects. But they can also damage. (We all see instances of polish being employed because they can be employed cheaper). That's a difficult one.

But I may be wrong but I thought no one had ageed to the whole open door issue. We once had the common market. We could also trade anywhere. There is alsorts to be looked at but the lazy benefit argument doesn't always hold water for me. (Their are always some who will take the piss and I do know plenty) I mean this element of the welfare state is a small percentage is it not?

And the clamouring to hammer everyone by this set of plonkers in charge could possibly have been sorted had they ensured that the ones paying tax actually paid it. Ie google amazon etc.

At least if we had some element of border control we could ensure that these so called "crime specialists" from abroad may not be in the country to start with. Can we expel them with the eu rules. I don't know. Call me ignorant on that score cos I genuinely don't know.

 

As you say the social aspects of the latest wave of immigration are little understood at the minute but pretty similar discussions took place after the last two waves of immigration so I guess only time will tell.

They like the red tape and we did agree.

http://europa.eu/legislation_summar...nt_of_persons_asylum_immigration/index_en.htm


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Attacking midfielder in the Ronnie Glavin mould actually


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