UK government vaccination logic

It pisses me off too and I don't have anyone in my family that is vulnerable.

People see things in black and white and think there's a simple solution. I also find it amusing when people complain about the impact on their mental health (bearing in mind its my job), yet go on to think its perfectly ok for people shielding to be stuck inside for another several months whilst the virus goes on relentlessly due to them wanting everything to immediately return to normal. The "i'm alright jack" brigade, or the "my job is in danger but I'll blame the vulnerable instead of the government who could pay me" brigade.

There's plenty of people with no underlying conditions in hospital too, just because it doesn't kill them it doesn't mean their quality of life is unaffected for the foreseeable.

 

My wife too is in the vulnerable category. I’ve been ridiculed on here for months for staying at home and putting her health first. We’re very fortunate in that we have a nice garden and a big house, but I appreciate how fortunate we are and that many others are in a worse position.

Would we like to go out? Of course, but thanks to the selfish pricks that flaunt the rules at any opportunity it would be stupid to do so, so we haven’t, other than a couple of very brief sessions in the gym where we were basically the only 2 people there. Bring on the vaccine and let’s get back to normal.

 

I find it amusing that it's your job yet you have added to the mental health problems of many on here by belittling their concerns.

 

I'm not ridiculing them I'm ridiculing the government who is scared shirtless of upsetting them. And I was talking specifically about the elderly not the vulnerable in general. As far as I'm aware it's the elderly who are being vaccinated not the young and vulnerable. But no it isn't intended to ridicule them it's intended to ridicule the government, the use of stereotypical old people names is because well they are stereotypical old people names and I'm talking about a stereotypical generic old person.

However I have to admit that I am still really pissed off that when asked to isolate in march a hell of a lot of elderly people stuck two fingers up at everyone else and said we will do what we want. It directly led to the first lockdown and cost a lot of jobs and lives. Most likely seeing them do that and seeing their hypocritical remarks to those wanting less restrictions because they're frightened for their job their home and for some literally everything has meant that I am harsher on them than I should be and have generalised way too much. I've certainly nothing against the elderly in their nursing home or the severely vulnerable who have done everything in their power to protect themselves like your mum or biglil and Laura, it's those who are in the vulnerable groups who have been out and about, even just to shops mode than is essential etc (both my parents) who then have the cheek to call for these ridiculous restrictions to continue.

 

Yes. Why not? It's a lot of inconvenience for one day (ok 2) which will make her safe quicker and allow others to earn money to pay their bills. Why the hell would anyone who is so at risk refuse to put themselves out for a day?

 

By the time this happens we’ll be left with two flights a day to US with a 10 hour stopover at CDG.

 

100 miles at 91, fair play. She must have a bloody big house too.

 

Ok then! Who’s doing it?
And why does it need doing in the middle of the night?
We’re not short of estate (and if we were, it’s easy to rent space in church halls and community centres)
But we are short of staff; so why in your head should we make staff work 24 hr shifts when they can do the same work in 12 he shifts.

surely 24 hr shifts only make sense when you have loads of staff but no space; whereas we have the opposite.

 

Why not do it everywhere that gets used as a polling station ?

 

Like I say we’re not short of space- we’re short of staff.

I went for my flu jab on Saturday, very efficient 4 nurses worked (let’s say) 6 hrs in a room each, they could do 1 every 2 minutes.

@SuperTyke would have had them all working from 1 room over 24 hrs. So my appointment could have been 3:02 am instead of 9:48.

And I should feel lucky because I got an appointment, being a doddering old fart.

 

Not belittled anyone's concerns at all. It is affecting everyone, not just you. That was the point I was making.

 

We could but we don’t really need to, how many rooms in our doctors surgery are used for more than a few hrs a day?

my guess is they’re less than 50% utilised.

likewise the clinic space in hospitals.

but we still have the problem of a lack of qualified staff. If the NHS is about 20,000 staff short, how do they maintain an already under resourced service and also deliver an extra 80million 2 minute appointments?
thats almost 3million hours extra hrs work to do. 72000 weeks work?

It’s a huge ask. And we’ll get it done. But we don’t need to be sending Gran at 3:30 to succeed. It’s just the wrong solution.