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  1. thetykester

    thetykester Well-Known Member

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    Not sure.
     
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    No. I think of cases where someone was pushed / punched and the person fell hit their head and died as a result of the injury sustained in the fall. It is still assault and in extreme cases where the person died has led to manslaughter or, in Scotland, the roughly equivalent culpable homicide charges. Then again I am no lawyer, but, I remember 'proximate cause' is a legal term i.e. the primary cause of an injury. It is not necessarily the closest cause in time or space nor the first event that sets in motion a sequence of events leading to an injury.(dredged up from my Insurance exams/ Contract Law studies. Proximate cause produces particular, foreseeable consequences without the intervention of any independent or unforeseeable cause.

    No easy way out for Barton claiming it was merely a push.
     
    Tekkytyke, Apr 15, 2019
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    Ar right... Din't realize we'd moved to Australia
     
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  4. thetykester

    thetykester Well-Known Member

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    Surely you've heard of Morrisons refered to as Mozzies, no?
     
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    No.
     
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    Me neither.
     
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    Nor me
     
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    Spitting on someone is classed as assault, so I'm sure a good shove will be.
     
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    No idea what it meant.
     
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    We call it Mo's but I wouldn't expect anyone else to know what I meant.
     
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    Well I Know a lot of people who refere to it as mozzies, just thought it was a well known term, I am obviously wrong but hay ho.
     
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    As long as r can remember its bin going to Mozzies, but like tha sez, if tha spok to half a Wendy Fans, if tha said r tha goin darn S HIT OIL satdi, thed se, dunt know wot tha on abart
     
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    Never heard of it either and we never called simco simmys either.
     
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    Assaulst can include a degree of recklessness (not to be confused with negligence or carelessness) where there are forseeable consequences. Apart from common assault, the legislation for assaults is the Offences against the persons act 1860. A stated case from the 1950's (still thought to hold good) was a conviction for sec 20 (causing GBH) by setting of a fire alarm in a cinema and someone broke their leg in the stampede. Another case is similar injury to a horse rider who was thrown when a motorist sounded his horn to try and shift the horse.
    In light of this, it would be a reasonable opinion to propound that shoving someone forcibly (to the extent they break balance) is an assault and in a confined environment with hard surfaces it is forseeable they are going to sustain injury if they hit something around them. This assumes that what is being said actually happened of course. We dont know the facts and aren't likely to unless it goes to court
     
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    Reighto cheers fo that.
     
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    I've heard it referred to as "****"
     
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    OK.
     
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