US Election

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  1. Austiniho

    Austiniho Well-Known Member

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    But if you don’t know, how can you prove they don’t?
     
  2. Austiniho

    Austiniho Well-Known Member

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    You mean the owner of the android operating system snd YouTube. I wouldn’t say more manipulative. Just one of the few big hitters.
     
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    Google controls the algorithms in the search engine that determine what is visible when you enter search terms.

    Experiment with searching for something that you would expect might be censored and then run the same search on a different search engine like DuckDuckGo or Yandex. See how different the results are.
     
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    I’m not here to prove anything to anyone.
     
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    Austiniho Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely, but how many of the public actually bother to get anything other than what’s on Facebook or Twitter... i’m not saying they don’t manipulate clearly they do. 1984 is here guys...
     
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    I’m definitely not in the 000000000.1 most intelligent folk on the planet cos I’m totally lost in this thread now :D
     
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    Of course. I can already predict what it will be.

    “Donald Trump was sworn in by a secret ceremony and the Joe Biden inauguration was fake. Trump is still the president and you can’t prove otherwise.”
     
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    Wibble.
     
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    Can we just separate a couple of topics here.
    Yes, the control of google, facebook, twitter etc on what we see and where we are directed is dangerous and needs to be addressed. I don't need an algorithm to tell me what I'm interested in.
    That does not mean that the Lizard people are in control and that Qanon is anything other than a refuge for the mentally/psychologically weak and easily led.
     
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    Pay grade or not, I think you know the answer. Years of conspiracy theory, and hatred, driven by Murdoch’s media, amongst others, has brought us, quite predictably, to this dangerous position. The really worrying thing for us is that they are introducing the type of evil that is Fox News over here. It’ll make the Mail, Telegraph and Express seem like bastions of reasonableness and civility. It will simply serve to amplify the divisions deliberately manufactured over Brexit.
     
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    Old Gimmer Well-Known Member

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    And that has been the intention all along.
     
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    But you haven't answered the supplementary.... i.e. the sheer numbers of people at every level involved in a conspiracy and the co-ordination that would be needed across the USA. How do you recruit and them and keep it secret. Explain that. You try to come across as being reasonable but simply trying to rationalise the nonsense being spouted by the conspiracy theorists suggests otherwise as do a number of your posts in this ludicrous thread. I accept though, that CT is on a different level (and in an alternative universe) to you and the rest of us.

    I am unclear as to why this WUM has elicited so many responses and encouraged him to move further and further away from reality in hits posts.
     
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    So what about this website BB? Are you saying then that banning or suspending people accounts on here for inflammatory racist posting is wrong. What is the difference other than scale between Admin on here doing that and, say, Twitter Facebook etc. doing so in accordance with published pre-defined rules regarding posts content ? I though we all agreed that freedom of speech only goes so far. Deliberately inciting riot, racism, sedition acts of violence, posting misleading 'fake news' (LIES using their proper name) or threatening someone is not the same as banning someone for having different religious or political opinions.
    A line has to be drawn somewhere and Trump clearly crossed it - evidenced by what happened.
     
  14. Loko the Tyke

    Loko the Tyke Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    I think trying to bring the BBS in to the equation is a strange path to go down and not a rabbit hole I'm personally interested in. And being honest I'm not really sure what you're arguing against, because I was talking about multi-corps controlling our view of the world and what we see and how we, as one global nation, might be influenced.

    Nothing in my post was linked to defending Trump and what he has said, hasn't said, didn't say. It was a general comment on the world we live in.
     
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    Loko the Tyke Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    I haven't answered your other question because maybe I didn't have an answer, I don't actually believe it, and therefore wasn't placed to give comment. I answered what I knew about US Politics in general which I thought you might find helpful.

    As for conspiracy theory posts from me, where? I haven't been involved in any of those conversations. I've said from the first day after the election that there's examples of bad management in terms of the mail in voting, but nowhere near enough to overturn an election or substantiate any of the claims. I still stand by that viewpoint, but it's hardly one worth arguing with me over because we're essentially in agreement.
     
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    The problem at the moment though is Twitter 3rd haven't been banning inflammatory posters. And I think reviews of multi nationals controlling what we see is OTT, it's a continuation of what's always happened with press and advertising just a new layer.
     
  17. Loko the Tyke

    Loko the Tyke Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    I don't/didn't know the answer. Saying 'pay grade' was me trying to be casual about basically not having a clue. What you said in your original post was way over my head. I don't even know the person you referenced.
     
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    You defended trumps right to be guaranteed a platform to spread hate on twitter to be fair.
     
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    Loko the Tyke Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    It's way beyond a new layer Helen. The papers could print their influence, show their influence on the news, but you'd have to choose to read or watch. That's not the case with Social Media algorithms. If they want to get a message to us, or the opposite of that, they can. And we've got social media drip fed in to us 24/7 as we're so connected now.

    I'm saying this as someone who spends too many hours a day on Twitter by the way.
     
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    You were (are ) talking about control through media control and censorship. The same argument can be applied on any scale hence the reference to the BBS. I am surprised that as an 'Administrator' on this BB it is a "rabbit hole" you are disinterested in.
     
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