US Election

yeah loads of Republicans you could imagine voting for how anyone with the smallest amount of morality can square voting for Trump I will never know.

 

And if they’re not as I’m sure they won’t be , will you be looking at others before you concede ?
Would you agree that Trump is wrong to proceed with this when the evidence gets thrown out or would you just shrug as if he’d done nothing wrong ?

 

I don't have any political leaning so I don't care who gets in and I'm not sure that I have anything to concede. I'm not bothered about calling anyone 'right' or 'wrong'. My only interest is that I want to see a fair fight because I think the American people deserve that. If the fraud allegations are proven to be false and Biden gets in I would be fine with that. Similarly, if they are upheld and consequently Trump is re-elected I would be fine with that too because it would be the fair result based upon the will of the American people.

 

I’m perfectly within my rights to walk down Goldthorpe High St proclaiming my love for Maggie, but how long would you expect me to last.

it’s exactly the same IMO. Whether your average Republican likes it or not, they voted for Trump, and Trump then went out of his way to make an enemy of his political opponents.

Again; I’m no fan of these binary positions, but in this instance Trump started it, and has stoked it. He enjoys it, there’ll be plenty of democrats able to detach themselves from that, but it’s not unreasonable to retaliate.

And if I’d voted for Trump, I’d accept that some people would be angered by that, because I’m bright enough to realise Trump has created that on purpose. If people are upset because they get stick for voting for Trump, then it’s Trump they should blame.

 

It's not due to anyone's policies, it's because Solar PV is now cheaper produce than coal powered electricity.

It's simple economics.

 

But you are championing his rights to make a false accusation .
They are throwing out his litigations one by one because he hasn’t proved anything he says .
Yes everyone’s got a right to make allegations but you have to back it up with facts and he hasn’t .
He’s installed his own judge in the high courts do you think that’s ok ?
that’s why he’s throwing wild accusations out hoping it gets to the Supreme Court wher his appointed judge is waiting , if you think that’s democracy fair enough I don’t .
To make the claims he has he had to produce evidence and he can’t and if as you said earlier he should hide it from the media because they will destroy his evidence then obviously that evidence as I said is flimsy .
The evidence of what this bloke is capable of has been shown throughout his tenure by saying he hadn’t said things which he’s on record as definitely has said so the evidence of him lying is out there in the public domain .
Would you say anyone can claim anything and it’s up to the highest court to settle?

 

I think Biden should say yep, okay, count the votes. Make sure they're legal.

Nothing to hide, I bet it won't be Biden with egg on his face when the courts prove everything was above board.

 

Didn't Trump's trade war with the EU cause Harley Davidson to shift production to Thailand losing jobs in the former place where they were manufactured? I think something similar happened with Volvo and farmers across the midwest after the increase in tariffs on Chinese imports.

 

I understand what you’re saying, I agree that’s it’s a terrible state for politics to fall to (as divisive as Brexit).

But I lay the blame firmly at the door of Trump. It appeared on my radar when Obama was elected and Trump amongst a number of other Tea Party types started attacking the legitimacy of the presidency. AFAIK this was a completely unique occurrence, and Trump has carried on with the same behaviour, if not directly responsible for the rise of the far right and QAnon he’s certainly created an atmosphere that’s allowed them to flourish.

He painted any politicians who disagreed with him (not just Democrats) as the enemy of ordinary people. The toxicity surrounding politics in the US is 100% the Donald’s fault, and it’s a shame it’s come to that.

 

I'm not championing his right to make a 'false accusation' at all. I'm saying that if he has an accusation that will stand up to legal scrutiny he has a right to raise an objection. If it transpires that he has no evidence I will be the first to say that he was wrong, but for now I don't know what evidence he does or doesn't have and therefore I'm in no position to judge.

He didn't install a judge. That was done by vote by the SCOTUS. He simply nominated her as is his right to do.

I suspect that the cases that have been flagged up to General Barr include 'facts'. If Barr rejects the evidence your point may be valid.

 

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By the senate, not by SCOTUS.

The senate rushed her through faster than any other justice in history, she’s the only justice in history to not get any bipartisan votes. The senate judiciary committee broke the senate rules and rushed through their acceptance into the senate vote.

 

Ok, fair point. Although prior to that the SCOTUS Justices had to approve her nomination and voted on it. I watched the Democrat Justices abstain by not attending the meeting

 

No they didn’t.

That was the senate judiciary committee.

 

Got a source?

There’s no automatic recount rules in GA, it has to be requested by a candidate.