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  1. Loko the Tyke

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    Of course AOC is further to the right than Corbyn. If the media hadn’t given her views so much airtime then you could have probably shaved 25% of the Latino vote off Trump on to Biden. At least.

    I didn’t buy in to the communism threat at all. I just think it was a stupid tactic by Pelosi and her group that was a reason some US citizens voted Republican. Amongst all of this thread I’ll I’ve tried to do is give reasons as to why some people might have voted that way because there’s many, even though some people on the BBS question how anyone in their right mind could vote for Trump.

    Problem is the minute you align yourself on the opposite side of a popular opinion the lanterns are lit and the pitchforks are out. I mean look at some of the replies within this thread and who comes across as the angriest. It doesn’t need to be like that at all. I’d have conversations like this on the train to Barnsley games all the time and they’d be far more civil than on here
     
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    It seems extremely weird to be a Corbyn supporter and a Trump/Republican supporter which honestly leads me to think you have the parties backwards in the US.

    Again this is a gross simplification that erases all nuance of the views, but on a right/left scale, the Republicans are so far to the right of the tories it’s obscene, with the dems being firmly in between the Tories and Labour. This is why it’s so weird to see you keep comparing the tories to the dems while being a Republican apologist, yet being a Corbyn supporter.

    And I totally appreciate that there are massive differences between the two countries, which makes comparisons like this pretty pointless, but human rights are human rights and the republicans **** on human rights for fun.

    Only sort of related, but I saw a study the other day that showed that the republicans vote against the interests of their constituents far more than democrats and are punished for it far less. I’ll try and find it again because it was extremely interesting to read. Basically the GOP have a far better PR department and party loyalty.
     
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    Nancy Pelosi immediately jumped on this and backed it. Very smart move from her.

    Over to Mitch McConnell now. He either completely goes against what they’ve been trying to do for months (they didn’t want any stimulus check at all) or he goes against Trump publicly 2 weeks before the Georgia runoffs.
     
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  4. Loko the Tyke

    Loko the Tyke Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    I guessed you thought that with all the 'subtweet' posts aimed at mocking me for a reference I couldn't remember. It isn't that at all. I just judge it on the policies I'm supportive of and what I hear and read that resonates with me, and which party I think will offer the best for the country. If I lived in the US I might change my mind. I'm also very likely to change my mind election by election because I sit firmly in the middle and judge every discussion or issue independently.

    I've also said multiple times exactly what you've just said about the Republicans being far right of the Tories and clarified any reference to left and right with 'in terms of the US'. I honestly don't know where I compared the Tories to the Dems? It's definitely not something I've repeated over and over.

    Again I'm repeating myself, but I've only ever tried to challenge these blanket and often wild categorisations of things in the US.
     
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    Do you consider National File to be a reputable source?
     
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    And yet if Govts of any colour bump up taxes to pay for these things they are pilloried by the media and the population then cry foul and vote for the party - any party - claiming they can solve the problems whilst avoiding large tax increases with or without the magic money tree. Yep the inequalities are bad but it is the financial systems that control Govt decisions not the other way round. Simply taxing the rich more simply drives them away to somewhere that does not.
     
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    That's the right's argument
     
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    I don't know if it's reputable or otherwise. I've never come across it before as far as I'm aware.

    To be frank, it doesn't particularly matter to me whether the information comes from the Washington Post, the Financial Times, the Daily Mirror or the back of a Cornflakes box. All I'm interested in is the outcome of the US Election and amusing myself between now and whenever that is resolved. If I'm wrong and Trump isn't President on 20th January 2021 I will be straight on here and happy to take whatever stick you, or any other member of the Barnsley Popular Front, would care to throw at me.
     
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    Trump is trying to get some 'brownie points' before going to jail.

    Trump’s longtime banker at Deutsche Bank resigns - The Boston Globe
     
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    F*ck off, we're the Popular Front of Barnsley

    Barnsley Popular Front......scoff
     
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    I haven't read the article, and don't even contest what it says. Laws of probability tell me there has to be something he says that I agree with. Doesn't make him any less of a c.nut.
     
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    It's not the same analogy at all. Plenty of money swashing around And yes I would be prepared to have less so that others didnt die.
     
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    I'm slightly misremembering now that I've gone back and looked, in that you weren't specifically comparing the Dems to the Tories and most of these comments did have an "and the republicans" caveat in there, but these are the posts that I remembered seeing, which led me to make the comment. Pretty off the cuff comments and harmless, but they stuck in my mind as they came off to me as (for complete lack of a better word...) tricking people that don't particularly follow US politics but are against the Tories (probably most of this board) into agreeing with you. I could be misinterpreting your intentions and probably am, but that's just how it came off to me.

     
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    I thought we were the Peoples Barnsley Popular Front!
     
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    We're the Barnsley Peoples Popular Front arent we!?
     
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    Is that near Mt Rushmore? :)
     
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  17. Loko the Tyke

    Loko the Tyke Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    You’ve massively misinterpreted what I was getting at with those posts you highlighted. I was trying to suggest, as this board is probably 90% favourable towards Labour, that if certain things were happening similar to what has been speculated, suggested, and in some cases proven, in the US but over here and in favour of the Tories, people might not be so dismissive. And also not comparing where they sit on the political spectrum, just things they’ve actually done.

    Good example of how misinformation spreads though. That’s three incidents in the last 24 hours where posts of mine have been taken in a completely different direction. You even ‘subtweeted’ three or four times about something I never said.
     
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    She needed a smart move because her admittance that the stimulus cheques were delayed as a political ploy pre-election had not gone down well with the undecided voter. Another own goal from her but that’s just Pelosi in general (although I agreed with her comments around the UK and Brexit - she was on point with that one).
     
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    Oh I had a bartering catastrophe in Bali. My flip flops had broken and we were flying to Oz that afternoon. So I figured better buy a pair in Bali as they'd be loads cheaper. Went off to find a vendor, who wanted $5. A bit pricey, but I was in a rush so I just coughed up. The vendor looked really peed off and virtually threw the flip flops at my head. I was extremely confused as I thought he'd be pleased to get such a large sum for such crappy footwear. Apparently not. By failing to barter and just accepting the first price offered, I had caused grave offence, as I had allowed him to overcharge me, which for him was highly dishonourable. Absolutely baffling. Give me price tags any day.
     
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    I definitely agree with you about the one dollar thing. It seems almost patronising. But tip much more than that for all the little things and you'll quickly be adding a couple of hundred dollars a week onto your budget. On the other hand, I once gave a pizza delivery guy $25 for a $22 order and he stood on the doorstep waiting for more. The pizza place was a three minute walk away, literally. Cheeky tw@t!
     
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