VAR ruining the game...

It's still early doors. It will get better. Surely it is better for the game to get the right decision than have the Reds miss promotion to the Premiership on an incorrectly given offside.

One penalty decision I disagreed with was the penalty given to France. The defender was closer to the ball with the attacker on the blindside coming in from the right. The attacker got a touch on the ball and than suffered from the collapsing legs syndrome and a penalty was given. That was never a penalty in my book.

 

It adds drama, which is good for the neutral. But it tempers any goal celebration, which is awful for the fan.

 

I'll repost my post from another thread because it probably belongs in here rather than there:

I think VAR is crap. I'm in favour of technologicalassistance, so long as it is immediate and, if possible, objective (e.g. Goal line tech). Having to wait whilst the decision is reviewed slows the game and tempers the emotions of a goal going in.

If we want to reform offside I'd stick a chip in everyone's boot and one in the ball and then have a computer map it and alert the ref if anyone is offside when a pass is played. The rule concerning interfering with play would have to be scrapped to make it possible, but I don't see any other satisfactory way of involving tech.

The only other thing I would do is to have someone watching the game in an office who could notify the ref about previous serious violent conduct or diving during a break in play. Either option is an instant red. A red for diving seems harsh but it would mean that the referee could be confident that if someone goes down there's been contact, and it would hence indirectly improve the accuracy of penalty decisions

 

Not sure it does. I still celebrated the England goal recently like any other and then was disappointed when it was ruled out. Same as I do when celebrating a goal at oakwell to then notice the linesman has his flag up. I think fans will still celebrate when the ball hits the net and not hold back just in case of a potential VAR review.

 

I'm not sure Rugby is any more stop/start than football? Ball is going out of play regularly in football, no different to rugby really.

I don't mind VAR- I think if we get more accurate decisions then it can only be better. You only have to come on here after a loss to see how much stick some of the refs get. It is in its early stages and will improve in time.

 

I'll agree to differ on the Rugby, because I can't remember the last time I saw a scrum in proper football. But on your VAR point, how will it improve, given that the outcome is still down to subjective human decisions?

 

I'm all for it...but it is in its infancy.
The bit i don't like, which needs sorting straight away, is when the players surround the ref and start chelping, trying influence/ question everything and nothing.

 

Yes

Yes, you celebrated that goal but you soon learn not to.

 

There's far more stoppages in rugby, a lot of them for totally puzzling infringements.

 

If they're in a scrum though then surely thats part of the active game? It's not them running down the pitch but the ball is in play. Football has plenty of moments when the game slows, whether it is for free kicks, injuries, throw-ins, corners etc etc.

As for VAR, it's in its infancy. It will take time for officials to get used to it. Once it does I think it'll speed up a little. As for decisions, a panel are reviewing it with the benefit of technology. It is hard for refs to see offsides for instance when often marginal.

 

I only watch league but the stoppages don't bother me. I'd rather it be a right decision than a game changing wrong decision.

 

Same thing happened in cricket. They said it would be used only for turning over clear mistakes. Now it's near enough every wicket that has to be checked, even if the stumps are splattered to all parts of the ground. Gone is the wonderful sponteneity of a wicket being taken and that moment of joy, replaced by more TV.

Same with football. Still I guess everyone goes home happy. Right?

 

I celebrated like I celebrated every other goal. Yes I stopped celebrating when it was ruled out. But that also happens without VAR when goals are ruled out. The point is i haven't stopped celebrating in case VAR rules it out. And I've not seen any evidence of that happening in stadiums either.

 

I take it you haven’t seen VAR in action at a live match. I guess it’s made for tv really. It’s a killer live. Goals scored and then ruled out before have always been quick and you know when there’s a possible offside (usually catch the lino anyway). No doubt I’ll get used to sitting around for a few minutes without a clue what’s going on.

 

Each side in cricket has one review. Keep it if you were correct lose it if not. Never seen var for straight bowled but for lbw and stumping.

 

The thing that annoys me most with it in football is people are still.disagreeing with the decision. It should be used as a tool.to help the ref if he doesn't gave a clear view/ linesman cant help him.

 

Not watched any of the World Cup, which a lot of the comments on here seem to be based on but, based on what I have read the issue is not VAR but the referees are relying too heavily on it.
This suggests it needs more training for the refs to understand when and when not to use it but more importantly not to make it the default position.

 

I haven't no and perhaps it does make a difference when live. However, I don't buy that people sit around for a few minutes not knowing what's going on. Celebrate the goal and then react if it does go to VAR review. Which shouldn't be happening on most occasions.

 

I fully respect your view, but for me the fact that VAR, referees and Sky/BBC/ITV experts struggle to agree, even after watching numerous replays from various angles, suggests that this technology just isn't needed; I'm happy with goal-line technology, as this is a cut and dried outcome, but VAR is always going to be subjective and even after any decision there will always be arguments, and the review times just add to the frustration for the fans.