VAR vote

I go less than that.

Quite a few times you see one replay and can instantly call it. So do it.

Then the much acclaimed "clear and obvious" is as it should be.

If they are drawing lines and watching an incident for 3 or 4 minutes, it isn't clear and obvious. On field decision remains.

It can be that simple

 

VAR is the problem but i get your point. VAR isn't the technology its the people and processes and how the technology is applied. The official definition actually states that VAR is actually the assistant referee who advises the on field ref. Of course this is only aided by video. The protocols, interpretations, structure are also part. For me VAR as a ‘package’ is the problem.

I'm wary of the stats they use. Whats the % of fans satisfied with VAR. % of manager happy. If there has been so much controversy in a season with 96% accuracy what does that tell us?

 

Had VAR been in existence in 98 they'd definitely had ruled out Hendrie's opener, looked at Scott Jones high foot for the 2nd goal, looked at the corner for Schmeichels block realising it was Neville, then added on 10 mins with the scores at 2-2
Fair play to utd barely any appealing

 

Can we just have vote for better refs at Oakwell

 

Some list that. I don't think they should get rid of VAR, but it needs tweaking. People shouldn't be given offside by a toenail. The rule that annoys me more than VAR is when it's offside and the lino risks someone getting injured by not putting the flag up straight away. That's the rule that needs scrapping.

 

Had VAR been in existence in 1998 that entire match would likely never have occurred. We'd have had a late penalty at Old Trafford for Neville's challenge on Andy Liddell and likely come out 2-1 winners as a result.

 

VAR cannot be un-invented. It is how it is interpreted that needs to be refined.

Offside is one issue where assistant referees have copped out. They need to flag if they see an offside, players need to "play to the whistle". If the VAR needs to get his slide rule (I'm showing my age now) out, then revert back to the on field decision. In cricket this is "umpires call" every one knows the rule and accepts it.

 

Aye, but there'd probably have never been a replay as we'd have been given a penalty towards the end of the game at Old Trafford.

 

I was a big supporter of VAR coming in but was stupid enough to forget that football authorities are completely incapable of implementing anything sensibly or for the good of the game.

 

What clubs and managers really want if for all decisions to go their way.

They wanted VAR because referees got things wrong occasionally, now they want rid of VAR because it gets things wrong occasionally.

They won’t be happy until they themselves are the ref.

 

Good point I'd forgotten about that, absolutely stonewall pen on Liddell from Neville

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/breaking-premier-league-var-vote-32974911

Looks like the PL agreed with my earlier post 19-1 in favour of keeping VAR but with some changes.

 

The small percentage difference between VAR and original refereeing is not worth the spoiling of fan enjoyment and emotion,and thats not taking into account the laughable offside and handball decisions.

 

VAR as originally proposed, to correct clear and obvious errors, should have been the way forward.

Instead, they re-defined the rules to fit VAR and created the worst possible outcome, a system that takes ages to implement, makes equally arbitrary decisions based on whether someone has drawn a line correctly and has outcomes that are inconsistent from match to match.

There's a way to make it work, but the Premier League seem incapable of finding it. Having something akin to umpires calls would be a start point, which would be defined along the lines of 'if we need to draw lines to work it out, then it's not clear and obvious'.

I'd hate to be watching games as a supporter which has the current version of VAR as a part of it. One of the benefits of being in the lower leagues is that we don't have to suffer it. It's no better at present than the **** refereeing decisions we have to put up with.