Wakefield Trinity

Funny you should say that, I nearly quoted the James McClean example and chose not to.

There are so many glaring cases of hypocrisy its untrue. Which leaves people with a more analytical nature extrapolating what the root causes are for these inconsistencies of view.

 

I dont think its " to do with a black man being murdered" I think its more to do with what many BLM supporters in the States want, things like defunding the police,

Definitley, I've heard it before " I won't employ him/ her, they are more qualified and will want my job in a couple of years" I was sent to fight Blairs " oil and foreign contract " war in Iraq, I discriminated against a ginger lad in my platoon because I thought he would turn to Ash in the 53 degree heat so he was about as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike, turned out he could take heads off at 600 metres, never judge a book by the cover as they say ( joking aside I knew he wouldn't turn to ash, but I cant help the fact he his ginger and smells of fox pi55 and digestive biscuits, a cracking lad btw

 

So millions of people are showing solidarity for BLM.... to cut police budgets? Is that what you're really saying?

 

And thats the problem, nobody should have to explain as to why or why not, people get slated for not wearing a poppy, as a 32 year army lad I dont give a fat rats arse, they have their reasons and their personal choice as got nothing whatsoever to do with me.

 

And there are millions who don't show solidarity to cut police budgets, i certainly wouldn't support a movement to defund the police

 

"whoosh"

 

If you're paying a policeman 20 quid an hour to track down someone who's stopped taking their meds only to find them, say they're not a threat and going away again wouldn't you say that 20 quid would be better spent on improved mental health provision?
THAT'S what this is about. NOT getting rid of the police.

 

Political correctness gone mad.

 

I'm saying many people who supported the BLM movement initially are are now being put off because of what the BLM are demanding

No I don't because that is not their only roll within the police

 

I guess anyone who voted Tory In UK could be argued have helped defund the police.... and NHS ... and local councils

 

Many clubs...
very few BAME supporters...

Ask yourself why?

 

THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

In fact it's not up for argument.

 

By some on here they certainly would use that analogy, personally I dont think so whatsoever, just as the ones who voted Bliar in ( including myself) didn't support is war in Iraq based on WMD which they didn't have and it certainly wasn't the fault of the electorate for that war mongering sespit of a human to send many of our lads to their deaths

 

You do realise that when someone criticises the Conservative Government, you can actually agree? You don't have to say BUT WHAT ABOUT LABOUR.

 

slightly O/T - my niece in South Wales recently qualified as a nanny wrote to a Knightsbridge London Nanny Agency hoping to be 'put on their books' as she wants to move to London.
Her college tutor told her that if her address had a number in the first row she would be rejected -
She lives at 5 **** Street, Merthyr --- she heard nothing from the Agency.

 

I agree - positive discrimination is a complex issue.
Perhaps the notion of 'someone being the best person for the job' should be challenged - if someone from an under-represented group can do the job why not offer it to him/her?
Another strand to this issue is that many people in BAME groups may believe that they will be discriminated against when it comes to job interviews.

 

Really ?never knew that fonzie thank you from the bottom of my heart for bringing that to my attention, BTW it was a reply saying that all voters of all sides are not to blame for the actions of their party leader, i understand what you are saying tbh but I f##^&€g hate that party

 

Of course it's not. But chasing round after mental health patients etc incurs extra costs that would be more effective in preventative measures carried out by other services. It's not rocket science and I'm sure you're capable of understanding it.
It's too easy to latch on to this idea that the left want to get rid of the police. I'm sure there are one or two that are that daft but to be honest there's a far greater number who are prepared to "believe" in that canard as an excuse for ignoring BLM and not giving a toss.
I think that is what it all comes down to. I rarely call anyone out as racist. I think there are very few out and out racists. There's a fair few casual ones and then there's a disturbing amount of people who really don't give a damn about others especially if they can be dismissed as lefties or libs.

 

On the first point in my opinion it isn't can they do the job or not it's can they do the job better than the alternative candidate. Using football as a simple analogy (as this is a football board) let's say Barnsley needs a new striker. Do we sign the best striker we can find for the money? Or do we look for a striker who is ok, will do a job and is black? Of course we should buy the best striker we can get and the players skin colour shouldnt come into it.

On the other point that they MAY feel they MAY be discriminated against well as harsh as this sounds is that not prejudice from them? If a black guy walks into an interview and sees a white guy at the other side of the desk so makes a snap judgement that the white guy will be racist then is that in itself not racism?