We all laughed when China actually barricaded people in their homes

It isn't an exaggeration to say that uni students have had metal security fences built around their homes against their wishes to keep them in. If you're ok with that then fine but I certainly am not

 

See that's a bit closer to the truth and yes you're right it isn't fine. Nobody laughed at the Chinese when they locked people into their homes, though. Nor was anyone "selfishly calling for people to lose their jobs" etc etc.

You don't need to add exagerration to prove a point. People won't take it as seriously if you do.

I am getting sick of certain posters on here though, thinking that because their jobs are uncertain then key workers and other people should be the enemy and we mustn't care. That is exactly what the govt are wanting and you lot are falling for it hook, line and sinker.

Nobody wants a lockdown for the fun of it, nobody wants to see compulsory vaccinations, nobody wants our civil liberties stripped. What we do all want is a way out of this and nobody is quite certain of the best way to get that.


Quit the "us against them" ********. It isn't helping anyone. You're not the only ones suffering.

 

People did laugh at the Chinese when it happened actually.ok we didn't ALL laugh but people did laugh, I saw them laugh.

People on here have said that they don't care if businesses go under, if people lose their jobs, they've called for measures that they know will put people out if jobs and literally said they don't care. Just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it hasn't happened.

And you say I exaggerate and then follow that directly with "you lot are falling for it". You lot? Who is you lost? I haven't said that key workers are the enemy. I have nothing against either key workers or other lucky workers who's job has been largely unaffected

Tykeored claimed recently that anyone refusing to have the vaccine should be denied NHS treatment. Well he will say he didn't claim that because he said hypothetically if people refused it then hypothetically should they then hypothetically maybe not have any treatment. Carefully worded but the message was clear.

 

See I challenge something you say and then you come back and change it. Look at your title. "Well, actually I did see SOME people laugh"... not quite the same as all of us is it? You don't need to do it.

Show me a post showing people selfishly calling for people to lose their jobs - and that be more than say one person on the entire BBS- and I will apologise. Nobody is calling for measures and actively wanting people to lose their jobs. They want the govt to support them until they can have their jobs back. Maybe that will result in jobs permanently being lost but that isnt the same as saying **** them is it? That is more poor management of restrictions by the govt.

It isn't just you having a crack at people who have felt a lockdown is necessary. You've accused me of an "alright jack" attitude on here for starters. Im supporting the likes of you with their mental health and have been since this all kicked off.

I get that your job is insecure at the moment and that must be horrible but don't take it out on me and others on here ffs! I can assure you it isn't fun for us either.

 

I honestly can't be arsed to trawl the BBS looking for the posters where people were saying if people lose their jobs tough ****, that anyone with any sense worked online now anyway etc etc but I assure you they were there.

I've accused you of an I'm alright jack attitude not because you want a lockdown but because when I posted about uni students having a fence built around their homes you played that down and said essentially it was nothing. Would you say the same if you woke up tomorrow and Boris had built a fence around your house? I doubt you would.

And I've no problem with the vast vast majority of people on here regarding this ****. Most have differing opinions but understand the other but there are a few who are so determined that if anyone is against a lockdown (and gives valid reasons why) then they want people to die. Yes, he told me I wanted people to die. There who block you because you put forward another view and they're so selfish that they refused to listen to it.

 

I've already said it isn't on with the uni students, not sure what else you want me to say to that really.

And like I've been clear earlier it isn't just you getting heated/passionate about stuff theres a few on here doing it. Trying to make out we're wanting some kind of handmaids tale esque way of life or something.

Anyways, i shouldnt have got into this and i never learn. It is pointless.

 

Again I'll say I only think you want some handmaid's tale esque way of living. Why you've decided to group yourself with the likes of havanah red who say I want people to die I've no idea, I'd personally distance myself from his views.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-54827702

 

If the press had reported the horror that took place during the first lockdown there is no way on earth the public would have accepted another.

 

To be clear, I understand they weren't locked in but if you're already isolating or have Covid and you wake up to find they've put a fence round you it could be a very unpleasant experience for some as the numbers of students these days who suffer from anxiety, depression etc. is astronomical.

But more than anything it's just the unthoughtful attitude of the Uni in sticking a fence round them without any discussion about it. Then they say 'We'll put extra security on". We'll yeah, why not do that in the first place instead of sneaking fencing up in the dead of night?

 

What were they for then, these fences? For fancy? Aesthetic value?

Research? I know what a fence is for.

 

It would appear the fencing was erected to keep people out, "particularly about access by people who are not residents". They weren't locked in though. It blocked off *some* natural exits and it was clearly ridiculous, but nobody was going as far as locking them in their building.

 

A fence is for jumping.

Although Jay Jay Reilly - tip of the day - runs in an NH flat race. 4.05 Wincanton.

 

Wasn’t it to keep people out? In my first year we had problems with people wandering in to the grounds of our block of flats and parking in the car park who weren’t residents. We woke up one day to a fence all around with a key pad to access. It was a fancy fence not a temporary one like that but we didn’t panic as it wasn’t Covid times and there was a clear entrance and exit point. The stupid thing about this Manchester fence was that it was put up with no warning at a time when people are already being told to self isolate. Of course people would panic and jump to conclusions and they should have expected that. It wasn’t one continuous fence that went all the way around with no ways in or out like this thread seems to be implying. It just shut off some areas and meant that students had to walk a bit further to an entry point that could be better controlled. Loads of unis flats do this already, Kirkstall in Leeds for example has always had this when you have to swipe in at the entry point and it is manned by security too at night. The lack of communication is the problem here, not the fence.

 

Honestly the uni can say what they want but I don't for one second believe that they were there to stop people getting in but also designed to allow those in to leave whenever they wanted. It would take some kind of special magic fence for that to happen. Of a 7 foot high metal fence was erected then make no mistake it was to keep them in their place

 

It didn't have keypads or anything. There was nothing at all in the design of the fence that prevented entry but allowed access. In other words if it stopped people getting in then it stopped people getting out

 

Yes it did. There was an entry point further along with security checking ID cards of people trying to enter. It was just a less sophisticated version of this that Kirkstall has had forever, this is the single entry point:



Here you swipe your card during the day (security checks it at night).

A person was going to check it all day at Manchester as it doesn’t have a swipe system as it’s just a simple fence. They have now taken it down and are going to have more security walking around asking people for ID instead. One of my colleagues’ daughters is staying there. It’s actually a really sensible thing to do and keeps them safer at normal times too but the lack of communication was stupid. (Although like I said, no one communicated when they did it at ours on Cardigan Road either but it wasn’t during these times so we just shrugged, were pleased people would stop nicking our parking spaces, and carried on).

This is what we woke up to (but with the gate shut):



It makes a good headline but I’m more shocked that they didn’t have one in the first place, that’s the fuss I’d have been making as a student.

 

I still don't think the true reason they were built on the night of a national lock down was to keep people out. It was to control the students, they even had their key cards deactivated so they couldn't move from one building to another

 

Their cards still worked for their accommodation, their cards didn’t work on other buildings.

 

Yes so the fence was there to control the students not random people who may be trying to access the uni