well done John Major

No they did not, Labour shut unproductive pits, they merged unproductive pits with others by breaking through connecting roadways, the only miners who lost jobs where those who chose to take redundancy, under the tories the majority of pits were closed and the rest privatised. Labour also invested in making super pits like the big K. As for education, I'm old tw4t and was ''educated'' in the old grammer school era, I went to a central school and because I didn't shine early doors my education was neglected by teachers who only looked after the gifted, in retrospect, if I could have chosen my mode of education I would opt for comprehensive every time.

 

I care how people get treated but what I don’t care a toss about are people who want something for nothing, those who cheat the system and who blight our town (and other towns up and down the country) with their selfish, feral anti-social behaviour. These people who see dole day as pay day and who laugh at us idiots who get up at six every day to go to work while they lay in bed until eleven then wander into town to drink their hard earned brass and just generally cause a problem. Barnsley has its fair share or these parasites and they cannot be blamed on the Tories but one thing I will applaud the Tories for is that they will at least try and tackle this particular problem.

 

Simple economic fact. If you do not get the bottom tier right, nobody wins.

 

Lottery funding was used for good causes back in the Major years:

A grant was given to Winston Spencer Churchill Conservative MP in 1995 who was going through a rather messy divorce at the time. This was to purchase his grandfather's papers.

'He also was the subject of controversy in 1995 when he and his family sold a large archive of his grandfather's papers for £12.5m to Churchill College, Cambridge. The purchase was funded by a grant from the newly established National Lottery'

Wikipedia

 

Coincidence.

 

The targeted selling of a proportion of a playing field is not necessarily bad. The biggest problem that happened during my childhood was the restriction of access. The worlds biggest field with a massive spiked fence around it is absolutely useless. I'd rather they took down the fences, made the fields open to the public and sold off a small portion of them to generate money to provide free to use high quality community facilites such as tennis courts etc

 

You're wrong, Labour closed more mines and cut more jobs, even the NUM says so:

http://www.num.org.uk/History-NumHistory-butchery-of-an-industry.html

The truth is that both parties were responsible for closing mines but the Conservatives get all the blame.

 

Problem is the use of open playing fields as a dog toilet..

I'm sure it's not beyond the realms of possibility for LEA's/individual schools etc to keep their fields but make them accessible without being a free for all and allowing kids just to take a ball and kick it about in safety for example - because imho that's where your athletes/sportsfolk come from - kids having the opportunity to try things without it being a regulated (pricey) experience - then they can hopefully join clubs or whatever to take their interest further.

That all assumes helpful parents, the availability of facilities - at a basic and advanced level, and the wider community not vandalising the **** out of such facilities.

 

Definitely. I think the reason they were fenced off was security driven following Dunblane (may be completely wrong). But surely the answer is fence off the school and leave the playing field open. I take the point that doesn't prevent dog crap though.

That said part of my job is strategic land planning and its shocking how poorly used public sports pitches are. Whenever I'm doing an assessment I purposely carry it out in the school holidays to see how well they are used and they're often like a ghost town. When I was a kid I'd be out the door first thing with my football and back in when it was dark. To be fair when the fence went up round Wath comp playing field in the mid-90s it didn't stop us, we dug a hole under it.

Hopefully today, on a post-Olympic wave, the playing fields will be full

 

Use it or lose it.

In my head, the 2012 olympics will herald a new dawn of kids actually playing out at whatever sports they want rather than inducing retardedness and sociopathic tendencies from Xbox and also it dawns on the British public at large that 'instant' celebrity is meaningless and such individuals should be ignored until they go away, Jordan, TOWIE, Big Brother etc and that the sportsfolk who work towards something, not just cash and fame are the ones we should try and emulate and look up to.

It'll not though, 2 weeks won't change what's been coming 20 odd years but i hope it starts a change in directiona nd attitudes.

 

I never realised a political party could make you run faster.

 

Hopefully the celeb backlash will continue. Plus, if we're in awe of the achievements of the competitors the last two weeks we haven't seen anything yet, the paralympics starts on the 29th. Inspire every generation that will

 

all politicians and political parties are 99% lying, bent toads who would fiddle their own grandmother.

Red Blue, Yellow....does not matter what colour rosette they wear..... all a set of cnuts, top to bottom (local government as bad too)

thereev for prime minister i say.....he'd sort em out..... for a large bung obviously

hth end this futile thread

 

You are spot on with this part of your post Bob.

 

Re: At the Atlanta Olympics in 1996

Nowt to do with the creation of the National Lottery and the funding it provides then?

 

I refer the Right Honourable Gentleman

To the answer I gave earlier.

 

Mario, Hitler said this " If you tell the same lie often enough to enough people , it then becomes the truth" . What I am saying is that you have been brainwashed and this Country is no worse and a damn site better than the majority of others. Barnsley is not as bad as people make out, but it seems it is the in thing to deride and decry everything and everyone that comes from here, take Dickie Bird or Parky or the young unemployed. Yes there are some that play the system, but a hell of a lot more milking it from the top!!

 

Re: At the Atlanta Olympics in 1996

I was beginning to think I was the only one that remembered that !
Well actually I was beginning to think I had imagined it!!!

 

labour didn't close mines just for the sake of it like the tories, did they closed mines to fill vacancies at other mines there were jobs and accomodation for every miner that wanted to stay in the industry, unemployment was'nt as big an issue as it was when the tories closed pits.
feckin tories manipulating statistics to suit their agendas its as obvious as the nose on your face that the biggest tory supporters are in places such as henley and knightsbridge and those are the people they serve the rest are voting fodder.