Well that's Tunisia out as a holiday destination.

We were talking about it at work a few weeks back because someone we used to work with was in Turkey.

There's several countries that I just wouldn't go near right now & they're Tunisia, Turkey & Egypt. Just not worth the risk considering who they share borders with & how easy it is to get through the borders.

Can't imagine what some of them out there are going through. Just read about a 16 year old who went with his 19 year old brother, Uncle & Grandad & all 3 of them are dead. Awful

 

I have been to Egypt a few times and always wondered when the fanatics from the main cities made it to the likes of sharm
El sheik. seems like the next place someone will attack. Lovely country, lovely people, but a fairly soft target.

What I find most sad is some people can't see that just like most Germans weren't nazis, and most Christians didn't support the crusades, most Muslims don't agree with what is going on. This is a tiny percentage of people who have a perverse way of thinking. It's embarrassing to see people I considered friends, and even some family members, sharing posts by Britain first and "West Yorkshire infidels". Idiots. As I told one today. They are as bad as the people they hate.

 

Very true. Although the atmosphere won't make for much of a relaxed holiday.

The people who will suffer most acutely from this terrorist attack are the families and friends of the victims. English people on the whole. It's difficult for those of us not affected to understand the extent of pain and suffering they will be going through right now.

However, in terms of numbers, the people most affected will be the ordinary Muslim people of Tunisia who rely on the tourism industry for an income. Millions of people. Decent folk earning a living and supporting their families on the wealth brought in to the country by holiday makers. That industry is now all but over and may never recover. With that in mind, what the **** did the perpetrators think they were going to achieve?

 

The worry is when what happened on Tunisia beach happens in our schools, town centres, stadiums etc scary times

 

Dunblane and hungerford to name just 2 have already happened. Likewise Cumbria and ira attacks.

The only difference is who's name they are carried out in. End result is exactly the same though

 

Do you think the scale of ISIS is what could make this different this time

 

No. I think the media coverage is

 

If you really believe that will happen then the right wing media have won.

 

It could happen but it's a lot harder for it to happen over here than it is in Tunisia.

Firstly one of these ISIS mongs has to get in the country without alerting anyone, they've then got to go about planning it without getting caught out through texts e-mails etc & then they've got to get the weapons.

 

Last week we were shopping in Manchester - in the Arndale centre that was completely rebuilt after the IRA decided it needed modernization, if we had driven along the M62 to get there we'd have passed the point where they also blew up a coach (near Oakwell Hall between jct 26 and 27) full of soldiers and their families. Warrington, London (IRA and those from Leeds), Birmingham have all been victims of fatal attacks in my lifetime and for a few weeks or months people stayed away, but sooner or later we go back.

On our doorsteps, Meadowhall is a massive target for the kind of cowardly attack against defenseless people that are the current modus operandi of the mentally disturbed that claim to be followers of Islam. Do we stop going, or do we just accept the risk and go whenever we want or need to?

Like several others on here, I was lucky enough to go to Tunisia and we did some serious travelling while we were there. From a base in Sousse, we travelled all along that coast and took a coach trip around the country - travelling near to both the Algerian and Libyan borders - and enjoyed visiting a beautiful country with friendly people. Contrary to FCO advice, I'd suggest that those border areas were actually safer than the main tourist resorts - mainly because for the most part they are empty. Terrorists aren't really going to sit on their arses for days waiting for a target to appear when they can drive to the nearest beach and find plenty.

Personally I think that the Tunisian government is not going to ignore this and anyone that is even remotely suspected of being radical will suddenly find themselves sharing a cell somewhere as they try to save what remains of their tourist industry and the livelihood of millions of innocent people...

 

I understand what you are saying but when your life is at risk it's better to look a coward and leave at the first chance you get then take the risk of another attack.

 

I hope you are right, with the Lee Rigby killing and the people leaving this country to join the IS I think they are already here.
This is an anti ISIS post not anti Muslim.

 

I went egypt this year felt safe in sharm but like you say only takes one brainwashed idiot to spoil it. But I think before long an attack in england is just as likely

 

That is precisely what they want to achieve, according to a terrorism expert on Radio 4 the other day.

If it destroys the tourism industry and puts a lot of young men out of work, ISIS will feed on their disillusionment to target them as recruits.

 

It's the same thing I thought the day it happened.

 

It's scary that something so illogical probably works.

If I had a job and a way of life. And some warped nutters came and killed a bunch of the people that supported that job then I would be more inclined to support destroying their ideology, not thinking "might go and join those nutters who just lost me my job and dragged my family into poverty". It's like the miners deciding to vote Tory. Makes no bloody sense. Yet it seems to happen in these places.

ISIS needs eradicating. Sadly we'll see hundreds more of these types of lone wolf attacks before it is beaten.

 

Plural? It was one guy was it not?

As for religion of peace, what about all the locals trying to create a human shield to protect holidaymakers? Do they not count then?

 

It's not so much those affected, those who may lose their jobs, it's the younger generation(s) who'll potentially have no future there now because of the likelihood of tourism in the country decreasing after this awful attack. Those younger lads will grow up even more disillusioned and could be fresh meat for the brainwashing, fake Muslims calling themselves ISIS/ISIL/IS etc.

These aren't Muslims, they also had a suicide bomber kill over 20 Muslims at a Kuwaiti mosque during Friday prayers. They're evil basterds. Pure and simple.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-33303795

 

'radicalised',the new buzz word for evil b@stards.

 

I am pretty sure the authorities know who is doing the 'grooming' within the isis lot...time for some surgical strikes that don't make the news?