weststandbogs

Does WSB want an invite?

 

........on condition that the roof is removed first

 

I doubt it.

 

As I personally see it then no we didnt want an invite as such. Although the club marketed the exercise as involving and inviting all the representatives from 'groups' who are connected to BFC as far as following and supporting the club. We wouldn't be able to produce what we do without all been loyal and dedicated fans, all but 2 are ST holders etc etc. We sell 1000 issues per edition, have a couple of thou or so followers on social media etc.

I think we're mostly all well aware why we were excluded when a supporters club numbering 50 or so get asked.

Would I have gone if asked?!?! I'm 50/50 tbh. I'm
obviously part of WSB and proud of what we've achieved. But first and foremost I'm a BFC fan, regular since 1980 aged 7. Watched the Reds at over 80 grounds and a ST holder for nearly 20 years.

 

Agree with both of you (apart from the Jay-sus bit obviously) but the club should invite WSB, it's up to WSB whether or not they accept the invitation. By inviting WSB, the club comes across as the good guy, they show they're not easily offended, they can take a bit of pillocking and they're more than willing to talk to everyone, even folk who give them stick. By not inviting them, they come out of this looking bad.

That's what I'd do anyway. I'd invite WSB to absolutely everything. It's difficult for a fanzine to criticise you when you're willing to bend over backwards to accommodate them. React badly to criticism and mickey taking and you'll get more and more. Take it on the chin, smile and laugh and it'll start to go away. The people giving you the pillock will become your staunchest defenders.

 

The bit I don't really get is that I'm struggling to recall any major critisism in any of the 5 issues?!? Bit of piss take yeah. A bit of comment etc regards previous regimes etc. that aside I'd struggle to really see why we've offended anyone. You should see some of the stuff we leave out for 'legal reasons'!

 

I dont mind if WSB attend or not but maybe having that distance and being the conscience of the club rather than an official communications route is best placed. After all everyone wants the club to succeed and having something to help view our club from different angles is healthy in my book. Not saying attending an official meeting would change that but a level of separation helps both the integrity of WSB and also the club.

 

I'd agree with that mate, Although Dyson doesn't hold back on Twitter. Not that he should, he should say what the hell he likes. And he does! He's got ballacks the size of watermelons, made of steel.

 

Balls of steel and RSI. I'd still argue we praise when due and don't when appropriate with a hint of humour, sarcasm, wit and piss taking. It must work as we wouldnt flog em all?!?

 

Why don't WSB set up their own fans focus group ,they could meet in the west stand bogs

 

To be reight I think my selling pitch when he tried to get me arrested was "Leeds Leeds so ***** they named it once". I just offered free cuddles to flog WSB I've obviously mellowed in my old age.

And I'd written an article not so gently taking the piss out of him in the Green Un. Forgot that temporarily.


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Not enuff room! We're too big;-)

 

Will you pack it in giving 'em tips? Toast wouldn't be funny if they'd have just laughed it off and ignored it.

It's funny because they took umbrage to it. Because they took umbrage I pushed it. Because I've pushed it we've now got employees of Barnsley football club and it's supporters laughing about it whilst those in charge think it's disgusting.

Which, again, makes it funny.

 

Nicest thing anyone has ever said to me that.

Like to think I'm calm and reasonable on Social Media.

 

I agree with you entirely. I'm on your side. WSB is the best thing that has happened to our club in years. Well, that and Danny Wilson.

 

Nail on head.

The toast article actually starts off really funny. TFP is well capable of that. Then he does his usual trick and takes it well too far, loses his audience and descends in to madness. Which is kind of the point. If you've never read what he's written before, it's a bit shocking, but for those of us who have read his stuff for the last dozen years or so it's still funny. However, even if you don't find it funny, it's just nutty, it's not offensive. "Cliff Richard is a paedophile" is offensive. "Cliff Richard bums moomins" is just daft. To be offensive something has to have a basis in reality. Nothing TFP writes has any basis in reality. It's surreal, over the top and stupid, which means that you can't take offence because there's nothing to take offence to. Well, you can, if you're stupid. Martin Cranie does not kill people then rub himself with toast. Everyone knows that and once they know it, it can't be offensive. It's only offensive if it could be true and what TFP writes just can't be.

I'm over analysing this and TFP would just laugh at me if he read this, but I admire what he writes. When I write stuff I kind of want people to like it. Populist drivel really - like this and you'll like me. TFP doesn't give a **** about any of that. The more people that dislike it, the more people that take offence, the better it is. A number of people take this stance on the internet, but where TFP differs is that he actually can be funny, he just chooses not to be. He writes a few lines that show you he could be funny if wanted to then tells you to ballacks and makes you read a few paragraphs of degenerate **** written only to offend. Either that or he really is a thick lovely person.

I think our club are getting there after years out in the wilderness, but they're still getting a few of the basics wrong. I couldn't do what Ben Mansford does. I wouldn't have a clue where to start in bringing in the players that we've signed this summer. However, months ago I'd have had you lot singing our praises after complimenting you on the humour, even if, in private, it irritated a bit. The £250 that you wanted to donate for Big Jean's sponsorship would have been on the front page of the programme and made the same kind of headlines as the Pukka Pie sponsorship.

An intelligent bloke like Ben who is doing some great things for our club is showing an uncharacteristic lack of of savvy in dealing with you guys. Makes me suspect orders are coming from elsewhere about this.

 

You're right and I still need some back issues if someone can make it happen.
Just let me know the best way I can pay for the postage and the rest.

 

Agreed. The first thing I thought when I read any of this was that it didnt seem like it was owt to do with Ben at all.

 

Hang on a minute jay!...what do you mean Martin Cranie doesn't really kill people and rub himself in toast?!!!, I'm sorry but I'm on the clubs side here, I've kept myself locked in the house and bought no bread for as long as I can remember until this maniac was caught and now you tell me it's all made up and untrue????, well I'm shocked and disappointed in Dyson, Cunning Stunt and the rest of the WSB Team, you haven't heard the last of this gentlemen,

 

You could take it in turns to be in , the one who takes the biggest piss stays in the meeting the longest