#WeWillNotComply

Been trending on twitter all day.

How can we ever expect to get back to any sort of normality with a government that constantly changes the rules and a growing percentage of people who have simply had enough of it all and are saying balls to it

 

I just wish the spotlight would turn upon the real causes of the prevalence of zoonotic viruses in humans.

The uncomfortable truth is staring us all in the face yet hardly anyone is discussing it.

The next pandemic is only a matter of time unless people stop the demand for industrial animal agriculture.

We are all complicit.

 

I thought it came from a bat? You can’t get much more free range than that.

 

And there we are.

 

Have a read if you’re bothered.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3666729/

 

I wonder how many business owners up and down the land, faced with losing their livelihood,
are contemplating ignoring the lockdown and are preparing to carry on seeing their most loyal
customers behind closed doors.?

 

So many involved one way or another in politics haven't followed the advice so the hashtag could be about them.

 

Ok don't comply. Who cares? Except actually there are two sets of people who are more directly affected. The first are those who catch it. Talking to a 19 year old medical student this week who caught it and said she was very ill and now has long covid. The second are those who so far haven't. My 80 year old patents who have been prisoners in their own house since march. You crack on mate, I'd like to wish you'll be okay but I won't moan you if you aren't... you'll bring it on yourself.

 

#gotofookinjailthen

 

We had a small march in Liverpool city centre this morning

 

So loss of biodiversity due to deforestation and agricultural expansion leads to pathogen spillover?

The explanation where a sick bat is kept in squalid conditions amongst other wild animals sounds plausible enough to me.

 

Quite a few I would think, I’m seeing a lot of people saying finding ways round, including a Hairdresser suggesting they will sell milk and give free haircuts with every purchase.

 

Conveniently for you, eh.

Therein lies the problem.

 

I read a while ago that over 200 distinct coronaviruses have been identified in bats and other wild mammals that could make the leap into humans. Previous pandemics have come from farmed pigs (swine flu) or wild birds (bird flu) or primates (ebola, marburg), etc. These animals live in the forests, rivers, lakes, meadows and other environments surrounding our own.

Virii are a lifeform that, like all other lifeforms, mutate. Some of those mutations allow the virus to infect other species and some of those mutations make them deadly to humans - but not too deadly otherwise it burns itself out with a pile of corpses and nobody to infect. Some of our viruses will also infect other species and can mutate to kill them.

Unless we stop expanding - which basically means population equilibrium - we will continue to encroach on the natural habitat of animals and be exposed to their diseases.

 

In what way is that convenient for me!?

 

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/barnsley-tier-3-lockdown-impact-19193653

Takings have halfed during tier 3. How soul destroying for business owners in tarn.

 

Look once and for all virus can only survive for a relatively short period of time outside the optimal conditions of the host
They cannot reproduce outside the host (unlike bacteria). Once in the host they reproduce and ultimately kill it or are killed or supressed by the host's immune system with the help of whatever medical science can come up with e.g. antiviral drugs / vaccine. In either case the virus will die unless..... it can find and jump to another host. We can bang on about incompetence at all levels but the simple facts are if people keep their distance wear masks, and in high risk situations PPE, and wash their hands properly after touching surfaces that could be contaminated then the virus cannot spread. No available host= virus dies. No system is 100% watertight but there is no excuse for the rapid spread other than people not distancing. End of!

 

So - here's one for you - is the logical conclusion to what you're saying that effectively everyone who has caught the virus is personally at fault?

 

Of course not . You are being deliberately confrontational. See the last sentence in my post . I stated not every system is 100% watertight. You cannot isolate 100% of the population for 14 - 21 days simultaneously (which would almost certainly eliminate the virus) It is also not possible for everyone to follow protocol. e.g. medical staff or people on the front line. Carers etc. and many other occupations.

Nevertheless the irresponsible behaviour of many, many people in disregarding social distancing for non essential reasons (e.g. simply to socialise) is largely responsible for the rapid exponential rise in daily infection rates that we are seeing Anyone who cannot see that is simply burying their head in the sand.

 

Has it been proven that the virus cannot be passed on to someone else after the isolation period? I've not seen anything to suggest so anyway.

I initially had similar thoughts, such as stock up and dont go anywhere for 3 weeks. Obviously the practicalities of that is zero.

I disagree that this exponential rise is due to dickheads. It has contributed of course, but nobody cant tell me (as nobody can prove otherwise) it seemed obvious if schools and universities were opened, it was going to bleeding spread.

This government is pissing in the wind, as are so many countries, because nobody has an answer... unfortunately