What a superb statement....... if only, if only

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  1. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

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    No one's flustered here

    Just gently ribbing you.
     
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    Ah, so it's pedantism

    To dismiss a statement that is being claimed to be from the Prime Minister of Australia when it wasn't from that source?

    Or...in the other example I quoted, an email circulating that attempts to discredit a Presidential candidate with lies and half-truths......and believe me, that email will do the rounds again if Obama wins the Democratic nomination.

    Too many people though just take such things at face value and believe tham

    That's the danger of the internet....people can just post up comments, put a name to it, and then it gets distributed around as fact, when a simple search can refute it. But if you actually do that it's called be a pedant.

    Well, forgive me if I like to find out the truth behind such remarks and postings.
     
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    *Windy Banned Idiot

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    Is that how you read it? Muslim bashing?

    </p>

    How bizarre.</p>
     
  4. Isl

    Isle of Wight Tyke Active Member

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    You've posted two messages on this board ever. One was something to do with our armed forces not being able to wear uniforms while visiting fallen comrades and this and both have been obviously slanted against islam and neither has had much fact.

    Do you support Barnsley? How about starting a football debate first, then you can move onto politics.
     
  5. Ack

    Acky New Member

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    RE: So you've changed from calling it "racism" to "nationalistic nonsense."

    If it makes you feel better to blame me for the BNP existing then go ahead. I hate to see who you'd have blamed for the rise of the Nazi party. I don't know, 'those Jews' eh? *rolls eyes*

    History shows that nationalism and racism often go hand in hand in promoting segregation. The problems that do genuinely exist won't be solved by pieces like in that ignorant and fraudulent piece of rubbish above. For that piece was not aimed at reasoning with those entering this country, but instead it was designed to rouse the passions and mistrust of those who already have misconceptions, genuine griveances or outright hostility toward those of another race or culture.
     
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    *Windy Banned Idiot

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    Yes.

    </p>

    And you're still completely missing the point.</p>
     
  7. Ack

    Acky New Member

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    Copied from my post above:

    The problems that do genuinely exist won't be solved by pieces like in that ignorant and fraudulent piece of rubbish above. For that piece was not aimed at reasoning with those entering this country, but instead it was designed to rouse the passions and mistrust of those who already have misconceptions, genuine griveances or outright hostility toward those of another race or culture.
     
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    Acky New Member

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    RE: I've got an idea.

    I don't know, you really are a card aren't you?

    I've lost count of the number of times you have refused to enter into a discussion about an article I linked to because of where it originated from. Yet here you are telling others that it's the content that matters.

    *rolls eyes*

    And for the record, i've no problem discussing the issue, I've said what I think of it's content.
     
  9. tag

    tagli teli New Member

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    It seems a very liberal message board........ i was just interested what was thought of the statement.

    ......... its all very cliquey thou - which is fair enough but stifles debate

    There was no hidden agenda ........

    Point taken tho.....

    OH and ......... from the days of Jim Iley
     
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    *Windy Banned Idiot

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    Your totally inappropriate reaction to that piece....

    </p>

    ...indicates that, as usual,you've made no attempt to read or digest it properly. Again, people who react the way you do to any call for integration are the reason the BNP exist.</p>

    Of course I understand that by making the above statement and disagreeing with you I preclude myself from the honour of being one of your &quot;decent human beings.&quot;Unfortunately most of us live in a world where a great many people don't &quot;aspire&quot; to be such and you don't really get anywhere by asking them nicely, taking photographs or singing them one of your songs.</p>

    Lasting, peaceful integration will only start to come about when it's possible to take measures against those who insist on segregation without this kind of hysterical and wholly unhelpful reaction.</p>
     
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    *Windy Banned Idiot

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    The difference is.....

    ....you post the words of others, in great volume, as a response, generally when you're floundering. That piece is the whole point of the thread. Do try to keep up.
     
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    *Windy Banned Idiot

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    It's still ******** no matter how many times you repeat yourself. nt
     
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    *Windy Banned Idiot

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    You were a bit scary yesterday. nt
     
  14. Ack

    Acky New Member

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    RE: Your totally inappropriate reaction to that piece....

    I've heard you utter some misguided comments in my time, but i tihnk you're really way out to sea now old boy. Clearly, if only people like me didnt exist, or didn't hold those opinions, then neither would the BNP because people would simply stop being prejudiced.

    If you don't aspire to be a 'decent human being' then don't bother to expect anything better of anyone else. For all your rhetoric about our 'Christian values' in this country, you really are quite fond of, sadly, making a fool out of yourself and preacing the direct opposite. And if you wish to keep attacking me and commenting about what I choose to do then be my guest. It's really quite sad, but no worries, I won't hold it against you. You seem to have enough anger for several people.

    Peace.
     
  15. Jay

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    I stupidly got angry yesterday

    Not at the club. They have a pricing policy that I just happen to disagree with. I then learnt that because I disagreed with that pricing policy I wasn't worth a **** as a fan and didn't deserve a successful club. Lost me temper then.
     
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    RE: The difference is.....

    More hypocrisy. You post articles to 'prove a point', I do it when im 'floundering'. It's lucky for you that you get to frame the argument how you want and when you want, isn't it?

    Unlike you, ill engage you on any subject you wish. I dont start claiming that I 'can't be bothered enough to read it'. I thought the article was a fraud, yet still i said why. And the response I get? Insults and arbitary dismissal as '********'.

    Contrary to what you think my opinion is of you, I still think you're an ok bloke. You have some hypocritical views, some strong views I don't agree with, but I still think you're ok.

    I know, you probably don't care and that's fine too, but just so you know. Life's too short for anger and hate, especially whilst arguing on a BBS.
     
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    I was born in the Iley era I think

    Did he follow Johnny S ?
     
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    *Windy Banned Idiot

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    That habit of using the quote facility.....

    </p>

    ...it's another giveaway by the way. Slow down and try to comprehend a little better.</p>

    Your failure to understand why the hysterical squawking of people like you actually generates support for the BNP comes as no surprise. Your fairyland logic rarely allows for the way things occur in the real world. Of course there will always be prejudicebutpeople like you fan it to a level where organisations like the BNP emerge and are supported. If you still can't understandthat try getting an adult to explain it to you.</p>

    I didn't say I don't aspire to being a decent human being. Like any right-minded person I don't aspire to being your moronic version of one, the type who encouragessegregation and shrieks &quot;racist!&quot; at anyone who does otherwise.</p>

    Allthough others didn't have much of a problem you never really understood &quot;all my rhetoric&quot; (in one thread) about a Christian value system or what the whole point of that thread was. </p>

    I've split this up purposely to make it as easy as possible for you to use the quote facility. You clearly have trouble dealing with more than one sentence at a time. If it helps you can continue to picture me dressed in a nazi uniform and shaking my fist at the screen. You could even sing me one of your songs. </p>

    Altogether now &quot;I've had a really good idea, nobody's ever had it before......just everybody be lovely, just everybody be like me...... tell all the bad guys to just be nice......(they're laughing with you mate, honest.)</p>
     
  19. EastStander

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    "That piece is the whole point of the thread."

    Nail on the head!

    Opening line "If only, if only"

    Comments attributed to the PM of Australia, thereby implying if only other world leaders would make the statement.

    Comments are not from the PM but actually from a viral email.

    Therefore the thread has NO point!
     
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    *Windy Banned Idiot

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    I post articles to "prove a point"? Eh? Where?

    </p>

    Can't remember ever posting an article in the middle of a discussion like this but if you can find any I'll find you a dozen of yours for every one. Now, back to the point (sorry) this thread is ABOUT the article posted. Not quite the same as scrambling off to one of your loony, intellectually incestuous little sites for back-up.</p>

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