What do yer reckon tonight then .........

paul.d · Mar 10, 2009

irrelevant? ...............

I haven't made any judgement whatsoever on the stats-they just ARE.

My basis for saying a loss tonight is our current erratic form and Birmingham's league position ,desire for points and their defensive record

paul.d · Mar 10, 2009

details............

<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="443" border="0"><tbody><tr style="height: 40px"><td style="width: 92px; height: 40px"></td><td style="width: 64px"></td><td style="width: 67px">predicted</td><td style="width: 44px">actual</td><td style="width: 67px">predicted total</td><td style="width: 43px">actual total</td><td style="width: 66px">difference</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">QPR</td><td>A</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>=</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">Coventry</td><td>H</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">Birmingham</td><td>A</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">Derby</td><td>H</td><td>1</td><td>3</td><td>2</td><td>3</td><td>+1</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">Blackpool</td><td>A</td><td>3</td><td>0</td><td>5</td><td>3</td><td>-2</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">Cardiff</td><td>H</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>6</td><td>3</td><td>-3</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">Southampton</td><td>A</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>6</td><td>4</td><td>-2</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">Norwich</td><td>H</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>6</td><td>5</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">Ipswich</td><td>A</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>6</td><td>5</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">Doncaster</td><td>H</td><td>3</td><td>3</td><td>9</td><td>8</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">Palace</td><td>A</td><td>3</td><td>0</td><td>12</td><td>8</td><td>-4</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">Sheff W</td><td>H</td><td>1</td><td>3</td><td>13</td><td>11</td><td>-2</td></tr><tr 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20px">Southampton</td><td>H</td><td>3</td><td>0</td><td>34</td><td>32</td><td>-2</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">Norwich</td><td>A</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>34</td><td>32</td><td>-2</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">Ipswich</td><td>H</td><td>3</td><td>0</td><td>37</td><td>32</td><td>-5</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">Bristol C</td><td>A</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>37</td><td>32</td><td>-5</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">Sheff W</td><td>A</td><td>1</td><td>3</td><td>38</td><td>35</td><td>-3</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">Charlton</td><td>H</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>38</td><td>36</td><td>-2</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">QPR</td><td>H</td><td>3</td><td>3</td><td>41</td><td>39</td><td>-2</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 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style="height: 20px">pessimistic</td><td>10</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr></tbody></table>

The Albatross · Mar 10, 2009

No mate, tends to be a 6pm meet .........

...... in the courthouse for midweek home games, work commitments and all that, will be out early doors Saturday though!

paul.d · Mar 10, 2009

however.....................

if we play a la QPR we might just snatch a point-Brum haven't won away in the league since Boxing Day

rothred · Mar 10, 2009

RE: irrelevant? ...............

by posting those stats it makes a statement, regardless of whether you make a comment or not.

by going back to ww11 you put a different slant to it than maybe if you had only gone back to 1970 or all the way back to 1888, therefore they are irrelevant.

Guest · Mar 10, 2009

it's alright paul

He's still a bit upset cos he had a go at stats and it didn't work.

rothred · Mar 10, 2009

watch out theres a sniper about

have a quick shot Dirk, then go back to hiding in the bushes

Guest · Mar 10, 2009

your world

Is a very sad world.

rothred · Mar 10, 2009

thats your usual tactic

a bit of derision usually gets people backing off, but if they still give you a bit of chelp either hide in the bushes or wait until your pals arrive to back you up.

Guest · Mar 10, 2009

Have you any stats to back that up ?

You know, anything down to your usual standards.

D/T · Mar 10, 2009

Looking at the team Brum played saturday, they have a weakness pace wise at centrehalf and right fullback but they will be dominant in the air and in challenges as they are huge. However, they have two of the better central midfielders in this division in Carsley and that **** bowyer. they have an excellent winger in Larsson on the right hand side who offers an excellent deadball. Dont know much about Fahey and who they play up front is a mystery.

paul.d · Mar 10, 2009

here you are then-with no comment.............

Barnsley 1-0 Birmingham 09-04-2007

Barnsley 1-3 Birmingham 13-10-2001

Barnsley 2-3 Birmingham 13-01-2001

Barnsley 2-1 Birmingham 20-11-1999

Barnsley 0-0 Birmingham 16-01-1999

Barnsley 0-1 Birmingham 05-04-1997

Barnsley 0-5 Birmingham 02-09-1995

Barnsley 2-3 Birmingham 28-08-1993

Barnsley 1-0 Birmingham 21-11-1992

Barnsley 0-0 Birmingham 15-04-1989

Barnsley 2-2 Birmingham 23-04-1988

Barnsley 2-2 Birmingham 28-03-1987

Barnsley 0-1 Birmingham 27-04-1985

Barnsley 1-3 Birmingham 21-03-1953

Barnsley 1-2 Birmingham 22-03-1952

Barnsley 0-2 Birmingham 03-03-1951

Barnsley 0-1 Birmingham 20-12-1947

Barnsley 3-1 Birmingham 14-09-1946

Barnsley 1-1 Birmingham 02-04-1921

Barnsley 0-5 Birmingham 14-02-1920

Barnsley 2-1 Birmingham 08-03-1915

Barnsley 1-1 Birmingham 11-10-1913

Barnsley 1-0 Birmingham 25-03-1913

Barnsley 1-0 Birmingham 08-04-1912

Barnsley 2-3 Birmingham 25-02-1911

Barnsley 5-1 Birmingham 11-09-1909

Barnsley 3-1 Birmingham 13-03-1909

Barnsley 3-0 Birmingham 13-04-1903

Barnsley 1-2 Birmingham 13-10-1900

Barnsley 1-1 Birmingham 07-04-1900

Barnsley 7-2 Birmingham 14-01-1899

 P 31 W 11 D 7 L 13

paul.d · Mar 10, 2009

a comment if you are interested..........

7 of our 11 wins came before play was suspended for WW1

rothred · Mar 10, 2009

RE: Have you any stats to back that up ?

the funny thing is, the stats you are refferring to with regards to El Haimour are true and probably more relevant than Paul D's Birmingham stats. It just so happened that I used them to back up my argument that El Haimour is crap.

Had I come out with the statement "Haimour is crap" without any stats to back me up, everyone would have agreed with me anyway and it would have been 1 post thread.

rothred · Mar 10, 2009

thanks for all the facts

I doubt if any of them will have the slightest bearing on tonights game

paul.d · Mar 10, 2009

I can't see how................

quoting match results when one individual plays backs up a claim he personally is cr@p. It completely ignores the myriad of other variables-in particular his team mates

what you could do-if you had the time and inclination-was to do as OPTA do and record every pass,tackle,shot etc and see what you get? IMHO that is

Tyketical M'stroke · Mar 10, 2009

One nil to the Barnserley

Mark my spacky little words.

rothred · Mar 10, 2009

I agree

but its no more relevant than thinking that what happened between the two clubs 1946-2009 has any bearing on tonights result

paul.d · Mar 10, 2009

Interestingly.................

well slightly anyway to someone with an eye for statistics-is that if you look at the historical results over time some stand out so far from the expected as to suggest something?-I don't know what or I'd be a millionaire- is going on

eg overall against the teams in this division our win draw loss %'s away are are 18.6 , 23.2, 58.2

against QPR they are 4.8, 19.0, 76.2

This is over 21 games in various divisions since 1949 

another one-Wrexham who I know are non-league now-have never won at Oakwell in 16 league games-conversely we have never won at Wrexham

paul.d · Mar 10, 2009

see my interestingly post lower down! nt

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