What has changed?

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  1. Jimmy viz

    Jimmy viz Well-Known Member

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    I went to the West Bromwich game intact I've been to all the 7 nil defeats in my supporting life time including the Reading one that prompted Ckarkey's retirement we were much better in all those games than the Altrincham one. Passionless and pointless. I've never been as dispirited.
     
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    Wasn't it Wilson in charge at Bromsgrove?
     
  3. onlyonesteviecooper

    onlyonesteviecooper Well-Known Member

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    viv anderson was manager against bromsgrove i think.
     
  4. JLWBigLil

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    No, old mate. It was Viv Anderson.
     
  5. Marlon

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    Cheers JL knew I could rely on you .

    I did know that it wasn't Machin though.:cool:
     
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    I think having 2 upfront has made the biggest difference to us. Admittedly with quality on the wings to give them service. The football's been faster and so much more entertaining. Our midfield, especially Hourihane, have played the ball forwards more in the last few games than they have all season. Simply because they've got options to do it. No sideways, backwards, back to where we started passing that drove me insane.

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    Hammill, simply put. He's got the team going forwards and we've benefited from it. No more sideways nonsense. Getting rid of about 50 central midfielders probably helped too. I think that everybody has always known there's quality in the team, but we've just not been playing the right way.
     
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    Altrincham was bad but donny away imo under Wilson was up there with it definitely it entertainment terms and Chester at home.
     
  9. Jimmy viz

    Jimmy viz Well-Known Member

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    My memory is full of cheese for such stuff
     
  10. 55&counting

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    As always, a splendid post. Showing faith in a bright young thinking manager could be the best decision made by pc in many a year. In this game patience is key and if we hold onto Lee I for one a mooing fwd to a brighter future.
     
  11. Red

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    Good post Red Rain.
     
  12. Con

    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    Why was it nonsense? The style of football has changed. The recruitment policy hasn't. Can't see how anyone can disagree with that.
     
  13. Red

    Red Rain Well-Known Member

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    The problem with your posts is that you ignore the simple and obvious explanations in favour of some outlandish and convoluted construct that agrees with your agenda. You have decided that Johnson has his own agenda that has caused him to abandon everything that he has learned through a long career in the game. You have decided that he has selectively ignored the broad education that coaches go through in order to obtain their coaching badges. You have decided that his explanations and reasoning of his decision-making processes are merely a cover for what is really going on. According to you his agenda is to play technical football.... whatever that is.

    Your posts are made from the standpoint that you know more about the game than the professionals. That from your seat in the stands you have acquired the knowledge to confidently assert that the chief coach has made mistakes but has now changed the way the team plays, that he now agrees with you. You are the Walter Mitty of the BBS. You should spend more time observing, more time listening and learning and less time peddling your own pet theories.

    The reasons that we played like we did earlier in the season were fully explained at the time and have been dealt with in the various meetings and interviews with LJ, BM and PC. There is no need to make up stories, you simply need to listen to the explanations given with an open mind.
     
  14. Con

    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    It's hardly a theory to say the style of football has changed is it? It's clear to me that we are playing a more up tempo game, players overlapping, and looking to get the ball into the box with pace. That is a clear observation I have made. Another observation I have made is that earlier in the season the manager clearly did not want to play this way. Not only could this be seen by facing the right way and opening one's eyes at matches, the manager also said it himself. It was also the manager who called the short square and backwards passing "technical" football.

    Regarding recruitment, nothing has changed for me. The last two players we brought in were 20 year old loanees. Same as we were doing back in July.

    Straightforward and obvious observations. As I say, not sure how anyone can disagree.
     
  15. Red

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    I am not going to go around in circles with you. I have explained in my opening post what I believe has changed and those remain my opinions. I have referred to the mistakes that we made in the summer transfer window, which were to do with missing out on the players that we targeted and beginning the season with an incomplete squad that has had to be supplemented with loans and short term additions on an on-going basis ever since. A successful summer transfer window would have left us with a solid core, and we would have used the loan system only to cover for injuries and loss of form. I did not referred to the transfer policy or to any change therein, although I do think that we will see subtle changes as the transfer policy has to deal with the practical problems that it encounters along the way. The transfer policy is in any event merely a general guide as to the right type of player, rather than a statement of hard and fast rules. There will always be exceptions, as has been shown by the recruitment of Adam Hammill .

    My advice to you remains as follows: stay open minded, observe, listen and learn.
     
  16. Con

    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    I didn't ask for any advice, nor do I require any. However, since we're dishing it out, my advice to you is to stop being so conceited and condescending, and stop filling out your posts with waffle to make them look more insightful.
     
  17. dreamboy3000

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    Agreed. Many fans especially on here knew we needed to play 442 and get in some experience. We were garbage with an inexperienced team playing a bad formation. Then we bring in some experience, change to 442 (two things so many fans said we had to do) and our form turned for the better. I don't put this run down much to the head coach. We could see why we were struggling as it wasn't rocket science. He saw it himself eventually.
     
  18. Redstar

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    What were those reasons?

    Your deference to these "professionals" shows a frightening lack of self respect for a poster who tries to come across as knowledgeable and learned.

    I'd venture that the formalised learning they do flies in the face of the lifetime of learning in the game. The "technical football" is the current vogue that is taught in the badge courses.

    It is too rigid and seems to negate any sense of innovation and individual inspiration from coaches.

    Fair play to Lee, he's got a player in Hammill who is too good for the division and made the very best of him by adapting the shape to suit him and also the style to suit him

    As a happy by product he is now also benefitting other players such as 15 goal Sam Winnall. Folk in the stands have said all season that given chances in the box, Sam will score goals. And he is doing just that...
     
  19. Red

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    I know you didn't, but your stuff is so naïve that I decided to give it anyway.
     
  20. Con

    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    Bit pithy for you.
     

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