What's out top earner on?

The fact is, mate

You shouldn't be doing it at all, if you're berating others for doing the same thing to another player. The volume of criticism is irrelevant. If it's regarded as wrong against one player, it's wrong against them all.
I'm not saying whether you're right, or wrong, in your criticism of Hassell. You have the right to voice your opinions on Hassell and any other player, for that matter. But so does everyone else, even if you personally believe the criticism to be unwarranted, unfair or inaccurate. Sometimes you simply have to accept someone else has a different viewpoint to you. It doesn't make them right or wrong, just different.

 

And of course, US sport has a college and draft system where-by the worst clubs get first choice of the best young players. It's designed to promote a more even competition and tends to work.

 

Socialism at it's best in the most anti socialist country in the World. But they don't understand that.

 

This is for Hemsworth - I clearly remember you stating your intention at 11AM on the day of the 'Relegation Party' at Bumhole Lane, to not attend that match, and instead spend your money at the bookies, backing the Blunts. You also claimed, the same day, that Danny Haynes was a terrible footballer who was "just fast at running"....

Not only did you miss one of the best away days in a while, you will have noticed that Haynes scored twice, and your bet failed...

So, you DO criticise players. Quite often tbh. You criticise players that the majority of us rate. Because you're dense, or argumentative.

And, you keep defending Wiseman, saying he's "fast".

You're one on your own, lad.

 

With regards to the original point of this thread, I would add to it by pointing out that nearly 50% of a players wage is lost to the taxman.

That's not me defending them, either. Just thought I'd mention it.

And I'm led to believe that no player at Oakwell is currently earning more than 5k a week. But I'm not privy to personal details, and my source could be wrong, and they could all be earning millions. Which would explain the obscene prices fans are expected to pay to watch the *******.

 

Everyone pays tax though Whitey. Well, if you're on PAYE you do.

 

Obviously. But you can't deny that when people post players' wages, they just quote the wage, rather than halving it.

 

What's that got to do with it? Why do footballers seem to think that their tax rate should be taken into account when deciding how much "they are worth"
Think I'll try that when I go for my next job. I'm thinking of going contracting so I'll make sure I negotiate a third more on top of what they are offering just to cover my tax!

 

And what's wrong with that ? Why shouldn't you look after yourself ? It doesn't mean you won't pay tax.

I think Whitey's point was that folk seem to think wrt footballers that £8k a week = £8k in the bank, when it doesn't. Plus their career could be ended by one tackle in the next match.

Yes £8k per week is a lot in anyone's language but it's a short career and they have to secure their future now, whether that means investing to retire or making sure they have enough in the bank to fund retraining/education etc.

I'm sure some footballers are detached from reality, but there are a lot - at our club and Championship level and lower who appreciate how fortunate they are to earn so much but realise it won't last forever and so ahve tos ecure theirs and their families future.

 

You mean like bobby hassell..

 

The evil Bobby.

 

that to me??

 

But when you see a job advertised the salary that's always quoted is gross. If people are asked what they earn they never say their net salary.

 

This drives me fecking mad, and I'm not having a go at you here Extremely northern, it's just that I hate it when overpaid footballers spout this drivel.

I am currently in my third different industry, as I'm sure many of us are, so what makes footballers think that they have to have millions in the bank to retire on by the age of 33? Why can't they, as players of yesteryear did, consider a different job after football. They may be one tackle away from ending their career in football, but that doesn't mean they are heading straight for the poor house. They will have the little matter of an insurance payout, their contract paid up (probably) and, if it was a malicious tackle, the option of legal action...and then the poor souls could consider an alternative job. I think I'm right in saying that footballers can claim on their pension at the age of 35. Lazy sods.

 

I was made redundant in the early 90's and had to retrain.

That doesn't make me want everyone else to have to do the same. If someone is fortunate to be born with a God given talent that will earn them enough money to chalk **** on it at 35 then good luck to them. As long as they put the effort in and don't take the **** when they are playing.

It'll change when the telly money runs out, and then they'll have to take a different approach, but as it is now, they are only being paid what's available.

 

Trouble with that for me is that I don't think those playing in the Championship have a god given talent. They're alright, but no more, yet they're paid like they have a god given talent. That doesn't happen anywhere else.

In Athletics Usain Bolt gets plenty of dosh, but he has a god given talent, he brings in fans from all over the world, everyone loves him, so he probably deserves his dosh. But a sprinter running 10.3 in a national meeting in Loughborough doesn't earn a penny and he might be the tenth best sprinter in the country.

George Clooney might get £millions for every film, but those working every day up and down the country in our theatres have a wage comparable to your average Joe. Less in a lot of cases.

So I can understand when the likes of Messi get paid millions and even the likes of Rooney and Terry. The best in any field command a lot of money. The mistake football has made is that it pays 10th rate players a kings ransom. Even ***** players get a piece of the pie. No other business does that. It wouldn't be so bad if the clubs could afford to do that, but they can't and many are close to going under. And it's us, the customer that have to pay through the nose to see it.

Football is the only business in the world that makes very average employees in to millionaires.

 

Agree with that - but don't think every player in The Championship - and certainly not at Barnsley is on 000's a week.

The (undeserving) millionaires are the ones sat on their arses at Prem clubs on good contracts who won't move to do their job. Again though - is that really the individual players fault ? Yes it's a question of attitude but if some daft sod is going to pay them a massive wage irrespective of effort put in then there's only going to be one conclusion.

Football as an industry is ****** - and when it turns round the players will suffer, deservedly so in some cases, but outside the Prem and the wealthier/more in debt Championship teams players are 'only' earning what is equivalent to very good salaries in other sectors, not film star money.

 

Jordan Rhodes is on £10k/week @ HTFC - Blackburn have offered him £35k/week for 5 years. Good business all round I'd say. But as Barnsley's limit "appears" to be £6k/week - its obvious why the likes of Rhodes don't come to us( and why Norwood etc went to them and others)

 

I know I'm one that quotes the gross figure a footballer "earns" as a salary.

I don't consider what goes into the players pocket to be honest, just what the employer has to pay. The club collects the tax on behalf of the player and pays it (unless you're one of the portsmouth type clubs who try not to!) to the HMRC along with employers NI as an extra cost.

So whatever the amount, the full amount plus a bit more is lost from the coffers of the club.

 

They don't have to be on big bucks for that to happen, as it has been happening lower down the leagues for many years. Brian McCord, for example, turned down chances to go elsewhere as he was happy being paid his first team wage to play reserve football for Barnsley in midweek, so he could "go fishing with his son" at weekends!

You're right though in that a lot of footballers are simply there to make money and whether they play or not is irrelevant. Look at Robbie Fowler's career once his property business had made him millions. He totally lost the hunger because he didn't need it any more. Nowadays footballers don't need investments to make their money, as they can do that with one 3 year contract in many cases.