Whats wrong with english football

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  1. Ged

    Geddiswasguud Well-Known Member

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    Ask any service man or x service man what gruelling training is like......... am until lights out. Then in their time off they play a high standard of physical sport................... "in their time off!!"
    Then they give some more,,,,,,,,,,,, Its about a mental state and conviction.....non of which I have seen from this England team in this tourno or the previous errr 4 or 5.
    They usually blame the weather, humidity, too hot, pitch etc etc All the other teams have similar diaries ad problems. The prem clubs have massive squads so they can rotate their plying staff.
    We aint good enough,,,,, simple as but we can do better with said attitude shift and some tactics (for now) to get where they other euro teams are will take 8 years hard work from coaching academies up.
     
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    Geddiswasguud Well-Known Member

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    Correct someone said it of Winnall after the Colchester game. Stating he played a few more games than his rivals etc
    Looked ok to me after that
     
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    MarioKempes Well-Known Member

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    I'm ex army and I honestly believe the physical rigours we were put through on top of the Football and Boxing were far in excess of anything a footballer is familiar with.

    I'm not going to say that footballers aren't fit because they are but I know that at my peak, when I was serving in the Army, I was fitter and had more stamina. And I wasn't tired in June.
     
  4. Red

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    A fellow walker... tremendous.

    I am 65 now, and the walking bug does not grip me as firmly now as it once did, but the year that I was 60, I set out to follow the watershed from south to north. I did over 500 miles that first year (starting at Sidmouth and ending at Horton-in-Ribblesdale). I thought the rest would be as easy, but I encountered only problems. I have got as far as Rannoch Station but there is a big gap in the Scottish borders which I will need to fill in.

    As a way of getting my fitness back after winter, I began a walk similar but not exactly like your own. Like your own, my idea was to walk around Yorkshire, although unlike your route which seems to stay within the borders, mine was to visit every county that touched Yorkshire and included a walk over the Humber Bridge. I began at Hebden Bridge and by the end of the first year, I had walked to S****horpe. Like my other project, this is currently on hold.

    It is good to compare experiences with a fellow long distance walker. I don't know about you, but I am a lone walker. It is not that I am anti-social, I am not. I always chat to other walkers en route, but it is hard to find others with precisely my own interests, and as a result, it becomes far easier to do your own thing than to persuade others to join you.
     
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    I'm a lone walker too, I love the freedom to stop where I want, change my route, etc., and most people wouldn't want to camp out wild, drink from and wash in streams and rivers, not to mention the toilet issue. I find in groups there's always someone at the front putting the others under pressure, and there's always someone at the back being put under pressure.

    I'd welcome your analysis of my website when you've time, always open to suggestions for improvements.
     
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    Red Rain Well-Known Member

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    I think that your web site is very good. I like the way that the different maps download into new tabs so the walker can go from one to the other to look at two levels of detail. However, and there is always a however, isn't there, I am not sure how practical a web site is for the walker. You are obviously expecting the walker to upload the relevant co-ordinates into their GPS unit or transpose the route onto O/S maps that they have purchased, which is fine, but some walkers will need their hands held to a greater degree. Some walkers would appreciates more detailed route notes including details of things to look out for and places to stay. There will be some who will need more information about public transport to the start of each section.

    Some people find it impossible to visualise the route from a map. They need to be led from waypoint to waypoint. They need to have some indication of whether they are going up or down and by how much and how steeply. They need to know where they can find the facilities that they need and they need to know how far it is to the next place of refreshment, etc.

    It all depends upon who your site is aimed at. I would find all of that information very easy to find. I already own all of the maps that I would need as well as a GPS device, so I would not be going to any great expense to follow your route, but for new walkers it is a different story. Your "Hints and Tips" section gives some very useful advice, but if you need those tips, you are a complete novice and you need to do some long walks first to familiarise yourself with the problems that you are likely to face. Your route crosses areas like the North York Moors that are poorly served for accommodation and transport so novice walkers are very much left to their own devices.

    Your route relies very much on existing national trails. This is both an advantage and a disadvantage. A support network has sprung up around the trails that are extensively used, and the path is generally clear on the ground and well sign posted. However, I do not think that using the Trans-Pennine Trail is a great idea. It makes extensive use of old railway lines and it is often in deep cuttings. Even when it uses embankments, the old track bed is generally tree lined to both sides. It means that views are at a premium and walking becomes a function of simply putting one foot in front of the other. Futhermore, the trail is heavily used by cyclists, meaning walkers are continually having to get out of somebody's way. I do use the TPT, my house is less than 1/4 mile from it, and it gets me from A to B quickly, but I do not enjoy it, and surely that is what it is all about.

    In the main your web site is excellent, though.
     
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    Motivation + talent = Success.

    Poor motivation + Talent = Failure.
     
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    what's wrong with English football?

    English footballers are poor footballers with few skills.
     
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    First of all Red Rain - Thats a seriously impressive feat. Well done . Seriously. Very impressive and nice you can find someone with similar interests.

    I'm going to guess that the word "tired" is used when what they actually mean is not operating at 100% efficiency, whereas the man on the street means he's ready to fall asleep.
    I suggest that its used by others as an excuse for poor form. And that the poor form occurs more with players who play regularly but have a low level of determination.
    As Geddis suggested you don't hear of servicemen being too tired!
     
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    Thank you very much for your comments. Rather than clog up the site with stuff on walking which is of limited interest to most people, I've sent you a PM.

    As far as the football is concerned, I believe we never win anything because our players are not good enough. Simple as that.
     
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    Wouldn't argue with most of that. It's obvious to everybody except the ones that matter.
     

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