Who Is Better Hayes Or Nardiello

RE: Nards cannot be bothered.

I think you are probably right. The fact that he has not been played under Hart & Ritchie would suggest that the commitment is maybe not there is training?

 

RE: Nards cannot be bothered.

same here

 

RE: Hayes

Hayes

 

RE: nardiello30x better fact

What happens on here is that people think that by saying fact on the end of the post, it makes whatever they'er saying true, regardless of whether there is any evidence. FACT

See?

For me, Nadiello is too lazy and doesn't work to get the ball. He only plays when the balls given to him. At least Hayes is willing to battle for the ball. Occasionally.

 

At scoring goals - Nardiello

Stats for Barnsley

Nardiello
full appearances 33
Goals 18

Hayes
full appearances 30
Goals 10

Nardiello has a much better goal scoring record than Hayes. His average is better than a goal every other game, which is fantastic at any level. Hayes is currently averaging 1 in 3, which is OK, but his 5 goals from 24 league starts is not really good enough; he's got to improve. However, Nardiello is far more injury prone, which is always going to limit him. Hayes also offers more in other areas, particularly creating goals. I still don't know how well Nardiello would fare given a decent run in the team as he's never had one. His stats suggest he'd score a bag full, so when he regains full fitness I'd like to see him given the chance to prove that.

 

RE: At scoring goals - Nardiello

The other way to look at it is that I'm 90% sure that there is no chance of Nardiello being fit enough to play the 30 games that Hayes has played whilst only missing one start.

To be honest, Hayes 30 games, 11 goals (against Rotherham was his, the programme says so, it just doesn't seem to have changed in the stats) is a pretty good return for someone who doesn't take penalties, but he does need to start scoring more league goals.

Hayes and Wright for me deserve to start as it stands, and if and when Nardiello improves from the bench, he might be able to force himself into the side.

He has deserved a run at some point, but I still think we need players who are more rounded than simply being there to score goals because he doesn't contribute enough else to the overall team in my opinion.

 

At present

Hayes and Wright would start, but I'd always give Nads at least the last 25 minutes. If either Hayes or Wright wasn't producing and Nads was looking sharp, he'd be in the team. But he'd get more than his customary 1 match to prove himself.

 

RE: At scoring goals - Nardiello

That shoots down the arguement Nardiello is living off his 2 goal debut against Blackpool .

 

I think it's us fans that are 'living off' his 2-goal debut, Kev!

Didn't he also set up another goal for us in that Blackpool match? (Forget who actually scored it!).

Thing is - he's rarely done that since (set up others for goals that is), and yesterday he once more ignored a better placed team-mate to score, during his short time on the pitch. Strikers are greedy it's true, but at our level they HAVE to be more aware of what is around them - like Hayes is. Hayes' number of assists this seasons bear out that viewpoint. Personally, I don't think Nardiello is a 90 minute player, so should either start and be subbed after say, an hour - or come on as a sub during the 2nd half, as he did yesterday.

I don't think it matters whether you are on the pitch for 90 or 20 minutes - you should play to the best of your ability during that time. In my opinion Nads doesn't always do that - look at Saltergate last Monday - and therefore doesn't do himself any favours in Ritchie's eyes.

As I said in the heading - I think we fans build him up too much, in the same way as we criticise Richards too much! ff

 

There are always areas that need to be improved

In any player's game . Nardiello is no different and shouldn't be treated as such . However , as Jay has mentioned on more than one occasion , Nardiello has not had the benfit of an extended run in the side that Hayes , Richards and Conlon have , whilst producing very little in terms of goals or performance .

 

Hmm..

Harsh to say Hayes has produced little (11 goals and numerous assists in 30 games), fair on the other two though.

Hayes and Wright with Nardiello as first choice alternative would be the way I'd go.

 

Please don't misunderstand me

I think Hayes has been a good signing . However , earlier in the season , between scoring at Giliingham and in the league to Walsall , Hayes' performances left a lot to be desired . He wasn't scoring and contributing very little . Andy Ritchie kept faith in him and Hayes then went on to repay that faith . Conlon and Richards have also been through similar patches . All that I ask is that Nardiello is treat in the same way .

 

Arguably he was last season, Kev.

Treated the same way, that is! I haven't got the stats in front of me - but Nads did have a spell starting games, and did little to justify his selection in many of those matches.

My real point is that Nads IS a goal-scorer, as Jay's figures bear out, and he can be an asset to the team. He needs to improve in certain aspects to be more beneficial to the Reds - and you could apply that statement to some of the others in our side.

However, apart from that Blackpool debut possibly - he's done very little to earn the 'God-like' status that some fans give him! Yesterday there were cheers as soon as he started warming up on the touchline - yet he did practically nothing once he came onto the pitch.

Glavin, Macca, Redders, Higgy - yes, they are real 'gods' to us, because they earnt that epithet. By my reckoning Nads is just another squad player who hasn't justified the right to automatic team selection yet. If Ritchie considers that Richards deserves a start each game in front of Nads, that's good enough for me! After all, AR has probably forgotten more about football than we've ever learnt! ff

 

Nardiello was given 11 starts last season and scored 7 goals

The only decent run in the team he had was when Ritchie took over as manager. He scored 6 goals in 9 games in a run where the team only lost 1 game. Our best form of the season.

 

Flipping heck Jay

I was just about to say that !!ff
Anyway , Laura thinks Danny's gorgeous and I doubt whether Andy would want to enter into that particular debate !!!

 

Thanks for that Jay - and fair comment!

I saw all our games last season and I suppose if fans are happy with Nads scoring a goal and doing nothing else during a match - then so be it. I'm positive that during that 9-match run with only 1 defeat, we also drew a few?
And I'm equally as positive that in those draws, had Nads been more aware of players around him (as Hayes appears to be) - we'd have probably picked up some extra points. Equally I'm sure you are not implying that Nads regular appearance in the starting line-up was the sole cause of the unbeaten run?

It's all down to opinion ultimately - and my opinion is that he has done nothing since he first joined us on loan to justify the 'hero-worship' that he receives from certain sections of the fans. Yes, he can score goals - but so could Sheron, and look at the abuse he used to get!!

 

Meant to add....

.. Andy Ritchie watches Nads day in and day out at training etc., - and he clearly sees something which means he doesn't pick Daniel on a regular basis.

He's the manager - and that's his job. He ain't done too badly at it so far..........

 

Aha , but

Laura didn't think that Sheron was gorgeous !!
Yet another Big Lil argument that is tenuous in the extreme !!!(doh)

 

Yep - yer reight Kev!! Laura's theory is probably the best approach to adopt!!

Wonder if AR would consider giving Scotty F. a start upfront, alongside Nads?? She'd be in 7th Heaven then!! ff

 

Good grief

I wouldn't be able to get her away from the ground !!!