Not worth the effort. They just won't have the self control once they are let loose on their own when their mates start egging them on. Boy racers, loads of 'em round here. Or you could make it a capital offence to drive while wearing a baseball cap, that'd do it too.
Sorry? Oh wait I get it. I'm 18 and want to drive so immediately I'm a boy racer. Just a quick question... how many 17 to 21 year olds do you see smashing up speed cameras just because mr naughty police man caught them actually breaking the law?
So... It's gone from who's Brian Howard, to your birthday, with last night, Rave's and Firfs birthday and the chili peppers gig, to boy racers and speed cameras. What next?
I'm not saying all young drivers are **** And I'm not attempting to patronise you, or anyone. But, the fact of the matter is, the training you get for obtaining your car licence is one of the main reasons there's so many young fatalities out there. If they were to be introduced to the IAM, or Police assessment as soon as they've passed their test, I have no doubt it'd lower these figures. Advanced training, and I don't mean "pass plus" or whatever they call it these days, matures the driver/rider so much, you can't put a price on yours and others safety. And, yes, I am a young driver/rider on the road. I'm lucky enough to have 3 years experience on the road, which still isn't a lot, but a hell of a lot more than most boy racers out there. I do admit, I have done some stupid speeds in the past, which is all part of a learning curve. There are some situations where going slightly over the speed limit is acceptable, within moderation. Most speed limits need to be revised for different weather and visibility conditions.
RE: Sorry? 2 on 1. You bully you. It's ok though if you have a 2 wheeler. You can go as fast as you want on that, as long as you've got a sidecar. But a car. Oh no.
Where did I label you a "boy racer"? Are you telling me, if you passed your test, which i hope you do...good luck, and got into a car with all your mates, you wouldn't try and impress them by going faster than usual? You may deny it now, but you will, everyone does.
But... ...if someone in a Citroen Saxo with tinted windows flew past you, what would you're words be? "******* idiot - needs to learn how to drive" Why is it acceptable for a bike to break the law but not a car? And I quote: "Learning Curve". So its still ok for you to do it as you're on a learning curve but not young car drivers? They're expected to be great drivers straight out? Reight.
In all honesty... No. I can't see the point. I'd just drive how I normally do because that stuff doesn't impress me so why should I do it to impress others? And the most people who do that are the ones who want racing chips, have body kits on their cars and other crap like that. Because it looks cool apparently.
But you would Jonners... ...you'd be hurrying to get to work so you'd probably be steering with one hand, eating your scoth egg with the other as you haven't had any dinner. Tut. What next?
Don't start twisting my words I have done stupid speeds before, i.e. in the past. I got out of it alive, which is more than some do. Not once did I say it was acceptable for a biker to break the law. And, no, young drivers won't be "great drivers" straight away with the level of teaching they get.
RE: Don't start twisting my words Not once have I twisted your words. You were preaching that new drivers kill people with the way they drive. I don't disagree with that. Yet it was acceptable for you to drive like a lovely person on your Raleigh Chopper as you was on a "learning curve". What have I twisted?
You don't need to "modify" a car to want to go fast The fact of the matter that boy racers can't even afford a half decent car performance wise, is the best bit. I'm not labelling you a boy racer, but you will go through a speed stage, everyone does! I'm just lucky enough to be able to get mine out on a race track, instead of the road.
My words that's what you've twisted. And just to be pedantic, it's a Honda CBR600F6, not a Rayleigh Chopper. I never once condoned what I've done in the past, show me where I said it was acceptable.
I can't do one handed steering... Because I can't drive properly only being 18 and thats if I drive with 2 hands so I reckon I'd be fudged using only 1 hand. And Scotch eggs? No I'd much prefer a KFC or McDonalds so I can complain how fattening these types of foods are and how they're bad for me. And hopefully then make an appalling film about how eating KFC and driving with one hand for every meal is bad for you. Then everyone will think I'm a legend. What next?
You should do advanced training Then you'll have more chance of staying alive. Not meaning the standard of your driving, but many others on the road. Are you really happy with the standard of driving you're being taught?
RE: My words With sidecar? You started by saying, "more young driver's means more deaths". Bang on. Yet what you failed to mention is that you have spouted off in the past with how fast you have gone on your push iron and implied it was ok for you to do that as you was on a learning curve being a new driver.
So when I'm going through my speed stage... I can just think how I was told by you that this was going to happen. You could make money from this you could. Seeing into the future and that.
RE: Not worth the effort. it's nothing to do with training, it's to do with attitude to driving and also other road users.</p> I passed my test first time in 1977 at 18 but my attitude towards speed and alcohol in those days was appaling to the extent that now I'm quite embarrased about it.</p> My son 19 took a test five times which was far harder than the one I took and his attitude is spot on. Also remember 6 points on the licence in the first 2 years means back to being a learner.</p>
Enjoy killing yourself and others on the road then With this level of immaturity, it's only a matter of time.