Why hasn't Mark Robins got another managers job yet?

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  1. Con

    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    How did he bankrupt us? The board controls the purse strings not the manager. As for barely keeping us up, he saved us from certain relegation in his first season and in the second season finished 14 points clear of the bottom three. Skin o' of our teeth.
     
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    Re: Cos he's really ****???

    When did he take his ball home? The club put HIM on notice not the other way round
     
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    Re: He left Barnsley because he was given his notice

    Which way around did those events happen, because it is important. Did the club put Mr Robins under a twelve month notice (he had a twelve month rolling contract remember) and then tell him he had a reduced budget etc etc. Or did the club tell him that he had a reduced budget etc etc, and after a huge row the club told him he was on a twelve month notice. If the row happened before the notice, the club would have correctly concluded, in my view, that Mr Robins heart was no longer in the job and he was simply hanging on at the club because he reasoned that he would be better able to obtain a new job whilst he was already in one. In such circumstances the club would have had no alternative, given the amount of rebuilding that was needed before the start of the following season than to try to bring matters to a head. Unless you were present at that series of meeting between the two parties you would be unable to tell what the real situation was. My mock interview simply dealt with the original question, rather than trying to atribute fault in Mr Robins departure from the club.
     
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    I have noticed that your postings are almost unfailingly negative towards the club and particularly its management. I am at a loss to understand how someone with such pent up bitterness towards the club can continue to give it their support. OK, you do not like certain things that have happened at the club. Neither do I. However, most of us can put these things behind us and move on because we realise that it is the club that we support and the club will still be there long after the current players and management have long gone. In the end, this bitterness affects you, and only you and it is twisting your perceptions and making it almost impossible for you to enjoy the experience of supporting the team.

    I have resisted replying to your posts in the past because I consider you to be beyond reasoning. I expect that this post will be met with a tirade of abuse. I shall not be replying.
     
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    Re: He left Barnsley because he was given his notice

    "Unless you were present at that series of meeting between the two parties you would be unable to tell what the real situation was."

    I don't claim to. My answer was entirely based on official statements released by the club at the time. The club said they informed Mark Robins of the budgetary constraints, they said he asked for time to think about these and they said they then placed Mr Robins on notice. Am I now not allowed to comment on a situation as described by official club statements? Am I to treat them as incorrect?

    What they definitely didn't say was that there was a 'huge row'. I think it was you that was embellishing not I.

    I don't understand why Mr Robins is now treated as an enemy. I don't understand what wrong he has supposedly done us. He took over the club when it was in a terrible position in the league and pretty much saved us from relegation. The following season was a bit boring, but much like this season we were never in danger of relegation. I think Keith Hill is probably a better manager than Mark Robins and has the potential to take us further, but I don't see that as a reason to bad mouth our previous manager. I could understand it more if he was unpopular while he was in charge, but he wasn't, he was very popular. It seems to me everyone has had a change of mind after the fact.

    Personally I hope he finds a good job and is successful in his career. He was a decent manager for us and a very decent bloke.
     
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    Re: He left Barnsley because he was given his notice

    Admittedly, neither party has claimed that there was a huge row. It is just that I cannot see why the club would, out of the blue, put the manager on notice unless they thought that they had good reason for doing so. As I said previously, because he was on a twelve month rolling contract the notice would have been a twelve month notice. Plenty of time for the two sides to consider their position. I suposes that we find ourselves on different sides in this discussion because I have given the benefit of any doubt that I might have to the club, its management and its benefactor. I think that I have good reasons for doing so and for thinking that these people have the best interests of the club at heart, though I am willing to reconsider my position if you know different.

    As far as Mr Robins is concerned, I never called for him to be sacked. Although I compared the football played by his team to watching paint dry, and said as much on here, I always preceeded my remarks by giving him credit for keeping the team up and I always said that I was in favour of him staying on, but changing his style of play to a more attacking one, similar to that favoured by Mr Hill. I would never wish long term unemployment on anyone. My mock interview was simply an illustration of the questions a potential future employer would ask. Mr Robins works in the most competitive industry there is. If your CV includes an example of you having walked away from a challenge for what could be interpreted as purely selfish reasons, then you had better have a good explanation or you are going to find it difficult to get back into a job.
     
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    Gordon Owen Well-Known Member

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    Clown
     
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    There may be contractual obligations

    That could be in place as part of the settlement between the two parties.
    In my opinion, Mark Robins was a good manager for us. With him at the helm, we moved from the perennial relegation struggler's we'd been under Simon Davey, to lower mid table safety and never in the bottom three from the beginning of October 2009 (a month after he took charge).
    There was obviously a difference in opinions with regards to the financial restraints being put in place for the 2011/12 season. If there weren't, & Mark Robins felt he could work within those parameters, he would still be manager. However, when individuals try to claim, or insinuate, that Robins & Hill have had similar budgets available to them then the orifice they're speaking out of is considerably further south than their mouths.
    Despite the budgets constraints, the quality of football (on the whole) has been much better this season and long may it continue.
    Yet again, though, as soon as someone leaves (or rumoured to be leaving) then personal abuse follows, as sure as night follows day.
     
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    Re: He left Barnsley because he was given his notice

    He held the club to ransom. He was paid to a do a job yet instead of doing so asked to think about it. At that moment we were right to do what we did.
     
  10. Whi

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    Re: He left Barnsley because he was given his notice

    Who gives a ****?
    He did ok here, and good luck to the guy
     

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