Wonder if Jim O'Brien slept much last night

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  1. Kei

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    I'm sorry having played football a lot, watched it far more than I should ever have, there is no way a stray pass which incidentally came from a bloody good recovery in first place is to blame for that goal.

    The kid has far too much to do from there to even work keeper let alone score. The half arsed attempt at a tackle is piss poor from both midfielders, which kinda summed up there performance, abysmal.

    If you can't get ball, take the ****er out, it's ***** arse midfield play like that why we are rock bottom

    Get some strength, balls and height in that midfield a.s.a.p
     
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    Your thread infers that Jim O Brien may have had cause for a sleepless night due to a mistake he made.

    Why just Jim O Brien? I hope they all had sleepless nights.
     
  3. Loko the Tyke

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    I'm with you on that.

    Problem we have from the limited times I've seen us play, is that McCourt likes to wander around the pitch getting involved in the game, running the ball from right to left. As no midfielders ever run past him his options are limited to our front two, with one often out on the wing.

    When we ultimately lose the ball, he's found in the middle of the pitch having to get involved, or not taking up a defensive position on his wing. Against Wednesday and Ipswich he did a lot of great defensive work just from the position he was taking up, rather than actual tracking back.

    In a team setup to attack I believe we'd have more success from him, and the debate about his defensive duties would cease to exist.
     
  4. Whi

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    Indeed, Fiona.

    A few of these players in particular need to take a long hard look at themselves, especially those who were selected EVERY week and have been gash in the main.

    They've let Flitcroft down, the one fool who trusted them implicitly. I hope the next manager doesn't pick the arse kissers this time, and instead goes on talent.
     
  5. Jay

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    No it doesn't at all. Not even a tiny bit. It's an attempt at understanding how he might feel. He clearly showed on the pitch that he was greatly affected by what happened. I was wondering if he was still feeling bad about it. If he was, I was telling him that he shouldn't, that he's never done anything like that before, that we all make mistakes and that his fantastic efforts last season were a big reason why Flicker got the job in the first place.

    How you can read that and believe I was blaming Jim O'Brien is beyond me.
     
  6. Whi

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    Agree, Loko.

    I'd get us back to 3-5-2 (5-3-2) with Bobby sweeping. Recall Reuben in 10 days time, play him LWB, Wisey RWB. Then allow Paddy or Mellis to play in the hole, similar to Butterfield a few years ago. No expectations on us being any better, but at least going for the win in every game. If we're going down, let's fight whilst doing so.
     
  7. Jay

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    Can't argue with that.
     
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    Perkins to blame more than McCourt? And where was the other toiler?
     
  9. Loko the Tyke

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    Did you mean to quote me? Because your comment doesn't make sense?
     
  10. Loko the Tyke

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    Wouldn't fall out with that line up at all.

    We just need to pick a team that plays to our strengths and allows us to have either two strikers in the box, or one striker and an on rushing midfielder.

    This static midfield four are the reason for being so lowly, I'm convinced.
     
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    Jogging twenty yards behind play most probably. Absolutely shocking yesterday, didn't break sweat.
     
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    Butland should not have been beaten that easily for the first goal, M`Voto is a fecking liabilty with the pulling of the shirts and why was he not with Zigic for the third goal?

    First time I have seen the goals and that they were ***** goals to concede!
     
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    Agree about M'voto and shirt pulling, I wish he'd pack that in - I'm only surprised it has taken until now for it to result in a penalty. He's been asking for it all season.
     
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    When I have seen highlights and on tele , he seems to do it every time .
     
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    He didn't have a good game on Saturday, and he does grab at attackers shirts, but I don't know many centre halves that don't.

    However, he's been great recently. His form has been one of the reasons why Flicker lasted as long as he did. Him and Cranie just stopped the opposition from creating any chances, stopped the hammerings and allowed us to pick up a few points. I put that down to the team improving, but I think I got it wrong. I think it was the performances of M'Voto and Cranie. M'Voto's form dipped on Saturday and we were back to getting hammered again.

    If we're going to blame anyone it should be JLWBL. He started singing M'Voto's praises so we put the timer on to see how long it would be before he made a mistake. It was less than two minutes before that pass went astray and the ball was in the back of our net! :)
     
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    Jim o Brien is pretty much the only red on that pitch, guaranteed to give everything. He's got nothing to apologise for


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    If anyone was to blame for that third, really, it should be Dawson.
     
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    I think because he looks like he cares the most. When I saw his reaction my first thought was how crap he must have felt, and how he would regret that more than any of our other players would. He's not saying that the others SHOULDN'T have had sleepless nights, just that they most probably didn't and Jim probably did.
     
  19. RED

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    Flickers if he did have a sleepless night can't blame anyone but himself.

    O'Brien isn't good enough to be picked over Cykwa, Mellis should be on the starting 11 pushing up in the middle especially at home. Paddy on the right, Cykwa on the left.

    Flicker has been scared of winning in ever game. Apart from against Huddersfield where we played 5-3-2.

    Sorry Flicker, all your own doing.
     
  20. RED

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    Think we played 5-3-2 against Blackburn too. A game which we were on course for winning easily up to the sending off.

    Then we switch system and get battered.
     

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